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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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These Climate Activists Make People Uncomfortable -- And It's Working (www.rollingstone.com)
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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh noes, that organization that really makes an impact in bettering the world doesn't support my particular pet peeve, they suck!

It's this attitude why most grass roots organisations fail. As soon as a group gains some traction, you have all these.peoplemlike you immediately trying to inject their issues in there. I remember this happening to occupy Wall Street, that started good, then it toren itself apart when they needed to add all the other issues, racism, lgbtqfjwkskgr, Womens rights, animal rights, and so on... Meanwhile the coke sniffing assholes were laughing at them from a high balcony with champagne in their claws I shit you not.

How about you just tell them: well done, please do some more! Can I help you with your cause? Maybe one day we'll look at my particular cause, but that can wait a day.

Your behavior is the reason why we can't have nice things, please stop it

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think you've missed the point. I merely asked if this climate change organization promoted veganism, since other climate change groups do, and it seems to be in line with their message.

If they aren't, why not?

It's good to ask questions, friend. If not, you might as well listen to industry propaganda, since values don't matter anyway.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

No.

This is not about values not mattering. This is about people, like you, needing to inject their specific pet peeve into valid discussions, arguments, and organizations.

A climate organization does NOT need to require everyone being vegan. Would it help? Sure, I guess. Is there room for such organizations? Sure! Create your own, you're free to do so! Should you force a successful organization to adopt your pet peeve? No, piss off, because you will ruin said organization. Let this organization donors thing to make the world a little better, if you want vegans world wide, then start your own.

Don't repeat occupy wallstrreet, I beg of you.