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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

For the average person it would just effect them selling their house

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't apply to returns from selling your primary residence, even.

The only people outside of the ownership class (landlords, and people who own and peddle stock for a living) who are going to get caught in this are people who inherit an extra house.

[–] akakunai@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm in favour of this new taxation structure, but there is a narrow group of people with modest means like my parents who will be disadvantaged by this new tax structure.

They live in the middle of buttfuck-nowhere with a large plot of cheap rural land. Principal residence only covers up to a half hectare of land, given you don't meet certain niche exceptions. The actual house they live in is of little value; 100+ years old and probably to be demolished upon sale. The majority of the property value is in the surrounding land. Not a fortune or anything, but definitely more than $250k, which they'll now need to pay at 2/3 capital gains (they bought it for next to nothing decades ago). Not gonna throw them into financial ruin or anything, but it will somewhat affect what they can afford to move into when they go to sell their place.

Again, I'm in favour of this tax structure, but just wanted to include this anecdote given the idea that this only affects billionaires.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago

The capital gains increase is progressive, and only applies to the portion of gains that exceeds $250k. So, yeah, they're clearly an edge case, but they're not paying the increase on the whole sale price or anything.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So they changed capital gains? Because before it subtracted through years lived in compared to value

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago

Yes. Primary residences are exempt from the increase in the capital gains tax. People selling their primary residence are unaffected by the budget.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Not even house sales, really. None of us are lucky enough to gain a quarter of a million dollars through home ownership.

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Unless by "us" you mean non-homeowners like me I strongly disagree. In my area (Vancouver Island) it would be extremely unlikely you wouldn't see at least a $250k gain for anyone who purchased their single family home 10+ years ago, even 5 years ago for a lot of homes. I can't say for sure, but I'd imagine the situation is quite similar for all but the most rural parts of BC.

[–] Kelsenellenelvial@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No capital gains on principal residences, so the new rules would affect things like rental properties and secondary residences like a cabin.

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm aware, I was replying to the notion that no one gains $250k by owning a home which is clearly false.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

I obviously didn't mean that it never happens.

Vancouver is an unusually valuable area, and owning for 10+ years is an unusual case. The average span that a home is owned by one owner is about four years.

Even ignoring typical tax exemptions on primary residences, the average homeowner has almost no chance of getting hit by this tax.

I was responding to the lottery thinking that this was going to be an issue for anyone discussing the tax, in this thread. Everyone thinks they're going to get that lucky, and, on average, they are not.

Statistically, zero people who saw this post will gain $250,000.00 of equity through homeownership in a single taxable event.