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John Deere brags about sabotaging competitors & customers on hot mic - they're PROUD of it!

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 232 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (37 children)

Corporations would have us all subscribe to the oxygen supply if they could.

Take apart all the things. Reverse engineer their shit. Create open alternatives. Fuck all these monsters. John Deere, Apple, Samsung, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, everybody included.

[–] SSX@lemmy.world 101 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Meanwhile, Valve: Here's how you can rip apart our handheld computer, we don't recommend it, but it's yours so who gives a shit?

[–] blackkn1ght@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Also, here's our distribution platform where you can buy your games but have no physical medium, so if the game gets pulled you could lose access to it even though you won't get your money back.

Valve might be better, but they are far from perfect.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If your favorite game gets pulled, so long as it's not a requirement to be connected to the internet to use it, just pirate it. There is no better option if you purchased a game and it gets removed than to just flat out pirate it instead of buying a new copy, if you ask me. Just save your money in that case instead of going to another platform selling it.

[–] blackkn1ght@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but that misses the point. Mine was a criticism against the illusion of property Steam (and other platforms) create. I know i can pirate stuff, but still Valve has the power to delist or remove stuff from their platform at any time, without need to reimburse.

It ain't digital property, it's just long term online renting.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has a game on steam ever been withdrawn from people who have bought it? I've certainly heard of cases where a game gets pulled from the store and people can no longer buy it, but never where already purchased things have been revoked.

In addition there are games on steam that you can just copy to make a backup of it and it will run fine (I know kerbal space program was like this for example). In those cases you have exactly the same amount of control as you would have for owning a disc, but with all the benefits of digital distribution.

[–] Perroboc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my experience this happened with a game called Rochard. It’s no longer for sale, but I can download it from Steam whenever I want.

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Steam games gets pulled all the time which is perfectly fine. They were talking about cases where the people who bought it would lose access to it, which I haven't heard of either so I don't really see why some are bashing steam for something they could do but haven't done yet.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They've already stated that if they were to ever go out of business they would remove the DRM from their games so you can just download them and have them.

[–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

They stopped carrying a few games to buy but because I own them I can still get them.

[–] Thoth19@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes the games that I have stored on my PC that mostly don't have DRM and that I can play in offline mode even while running another game on a different PC. Yep those are the ones that I can lose access to?

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you have any games from Steam which you can play without Steam installed?

[–] Thoth19@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yup. Plenty. I haven't proven it for every game I own but I know it works for Titan quest and other random ones I've tried.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's cool to know, thanks.

[–] AngryDemonoid@lemmy.lylapol.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I already wanted a Steam Deck, but was saving up for one of the higher tiers. Then I found out how relatively easy it is to buy the cheap one and add an nvme drive. So, now my savings goal is a lot closer.

EDIT: Fixed some typos

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Damn right, I haven't bought a console since the PS1 but I bought a Steam Deck just because of its hackability. I have plans for it beyond just gaming. Robotics control and FPV streaming is one thing I have in mind.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Also Valve: we'll make some proprietary components that have major failure points, and then not offer replacements for sale (and if we do, at exhorborant prices).

I'm talking about their VR headsets.

Don't get me wrong, I love them as a company. But while they're pushing new industries, hardware is an after thought.

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