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John Deere brags about sabotaging competitors & customers on hot mic - they're PROUD of it!

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 232 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Corporations would have us all subscribe to the oxygen supply if they could.

Take apart all the things. Reverse engineer their shit. Create open alternatives. Fuck all these monsters. John Deere, Apple, Samsung, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, everybody included.

[–] SSX@lemmy.world 101 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Meanwhile, Valve: Here's how you can rip apart our handheld computer, we don't recommend it, but it's yours so who gives a shit?

[–] blackkn1ght@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Also, here's our distribution platform where you can buy your games but have no physical medium, so if the game gets pulled you could lose access to it even though you won't get your money back.

Valve might be better, but they are far from perfect.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If your favorite game gets pulled, so long as it's not a requirement to be connected to the internet to use it, just pirate it. There is no better option if you purchased a game and it gets removed than to just flat out pirate it instead of buying a new copy, if you ask me. Just save your money in that case instead of going to another platform selling it.

[–] blackkn1ght@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, but that misses the point. Mine was a criticism against the illusion of property Steam (and other platforms) create. I know i can pirate stuff, but still Valve has the power to delist or remove stuff from their platform at any time, without need to reimburse.

It ain't digital property, it's just long term online renting.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Has a game on steam ever been withdrawn from people who have bought it? I've certainly heard of cases where a game gets pulled from the store and people can no longer buy it, but never where already purchased things have been revoked.

In addition there are games on steam that you can just copy to make a backup of it and it will run fine (I know kerbal space program was like this for example). In those cases you have exactly the same amount of control as you would have for owning a disc, but with all the benefits of digital distribution.

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[–] AngryDemonoid@lemmy.lylapol.com 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I already wanted a Steam Deck, but was saving up for one of the higher tiers. Then I found out how relatively easy it is to buy the cheap one and add an nvme drive. So, now my savings goal is a lot closer.

EDIT: Fixed some typos

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

Damn right, I haven't bought a console since the PS1 but I bought a Steam Deck just because of its hackability. I have plans for it beyond just gaming. Robotics control and FPV streaming is one thing I have in mind.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Also Valve: we'll make some proprietary components that have major failure points, and then not offer replacements for sale (and if we do, at exhorborant prices).

I'm talking about their VR headsets.

Don't get me wrong, I love them as a company. But while they're pushing new industries, hardware is an after thought.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

Spacebaaaaallllls! 🎶

[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

A canadian startup is already selling canned air.

Folks in places like china are buying it up presumably due to the air pollution they have. This article says they already cleared 300k in sales and are expanding their product lines to offer 'flavoured air'.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-vitality-air-sales-update-bottled-air-1.5073762

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be fair, there is a use for it. If your at high altitudes, it may be needed. Hopefully no one should need it to deal with pollution though.

[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In this particular case its intended literally as portrayed in the Spaceballs movie which is what makes this whole thing appalling.

But yeah, theres other use cases for bottled air.

Maybe companies that manufacture and sell oxygen tanks can get in on the game by driving out of town 20 miles and bottling that air out there and marketing it as 'Great Outdoors' bottled air

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[–] demlet@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

There's a CEO in The Corporation (2003 documentary) who literally argues that everything should be monetized. Including air...

[–] DocBlaze@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Prime Oxygen - coming to Amazon prime by 2032!

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[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sounds like another industry in dire need of competition. Makes sense that they're fighting tooth and nail to keep a deathgrip on what they've still got (for now).

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There's plenty of competition; the problem isn't the proprietary firmware, it's the expensive parts. You can still fix 99% of a machine yourself, you might have to get a tech out to put a CANbus ID into the computer so a new part that you put on works.

But it still comes down to the fact that the competition don't make as good/productive of a machine, and parts availability, even if they are expensive, is key. I've paid $1000 for a part I could make myself on a mill, but it would take me a day and I'd lose $100,000 of lost production on that machine because rain is coming.

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[–] raptir@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There is competition - New Holland, Massey Ferguson, Case IH, etc... The problem is that despite all the anti-consumer nonsense John Deere still tops the lists as the best option.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Deere has the most massive dealer network in the U.S./Canada. So when looking for a part farmers have an easier time finding them. In other places of the world the competition is much more fierce and they don't compete as well.

As for quality of equipment, Deere makes stuff about average. It's not terrible but it's not great.

Other companies have specialized in some things and make vastly better equipment.

New Holland/Massey F has the best swathers and bailers.

Kubota has the best small tractors.

CLAAS has the best choppers and combines.

[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Deere has the most massive dealer network in the U.S./Canada. So when looking for a part farmers have an easier time finding them.

I have no doubt that this is caused at least partly by the decline of keeping spare parts on the shelf in a warehouse, something most companies did before everyone shifted to 'just in time' inventory management because it saved money up front.

But as it turns out 'just in time' doesnt work so great when a farmer needs a part right this moment since it relies on ordering then shipping only whats needed.

It probably made Deere's dealer network look pretty good by comparison since they (presumably) stock parts that another farm store down the road doesnt carry.>

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I'll move my goalposts a bit then. The industry needs more significant competition for that top spot. It's not an area I know much about though, just what I've picked up from discussions like this about how they respond when people get the crazy idea that they own the equipment they paid for.

[–] Countmacula@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago

Fuck John Deere and their anti-self repair bs.

The individuals using these machines don’t have time to wait for some tech to find the time to get to BFE, Kansas.

[–] skymtf@pricefield.org 41 points 2 years ago

EAT THE RICH CAPTIALISM SUCKS

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago

Louis Rossmann in his natural habitat.

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago

I’m sure those competitors will successfully sue them for <1% of their yearly profit in damages, plus they’ll suffer a single employee’s salary amount in fines.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago

I remember my grandpa casually telling a story one time when our family went out for pizza. He talked about how all the farm animals in the village and surrounding villages in Mexico suddenly died, and then John Deere came around selling tractors. This would've happened around the late 1950s I think. I have no idea if this is true or not.

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Does this dude severely lack sleep or something ? I don't understand why his eyes are like this.

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lol he actually made a video about it once because people kept asking him. He said that he went to a doctor and they said he was just ugly.

I dont watch this guy’s videos that often, but coincidentally I saw that one.

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[–] pragma@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

probably a combination of fatigue, aging and genetics, there's nothing wrong with it

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[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not easy being the only man in the world fighting for right-to-repair laws. Every company he exposes, more life is drained from behind his eyes.

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Soulless company used life steal.

Joke aside , his work is really impressive but his fight is already lost if most people just consume ( unrelated , fuck printer companies ) and accept their fate. We need aware citizens and there's not many of them. We're kinda doomed.

People accept DRMs and planned obsolescence as if they can't fight them. They don't know their strength and thzt if they decide to boycott these shitty companies they'd die.

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[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago

He's Batman and forgot to wipe off the eyeliner

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[–] Iwasondigg@lemmy.one 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've never had need for a tractor, but if I did, I wouldn't buy their shit.

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