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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Is it to much be asked not to have my face analyzed when I knock on your door? I just want to talk to a person, not be photographed like an animal in a zoo

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 6 months ago

It's not. The people are psychos...

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You have no right to privacy on my property (Exceptions being obvious things like bathrooms). If you want to "just" talk to me... then you hopefully already know me (otherwise that becomes soliciting/trespassing) and you would simply just text/call me.

So yes... It is too much to ask. As your complaint about cameras on my property and your supposed resolution of not having cameras on my property is depriving me of my right to do whatever the fuck I want on my own property within the bounds of the law. I also have a right and in many cases a duty to know who's on my property and for what purpose they're there.

Look... I'll meet you in the middle here. I have 6 cameras that cover 360 degrees of my house (focused on my property, not my neighbors). All the processing to identify cars, cats, and people runs on servers in my garage and the video footage is stored on my 400TB storage node. So I'm not sending your image to the "cloud" to be raped by some faceless big corpo. But what I do on my property is none of your damn business and if you don't like it... Don't come on my property. Just like I don't come onto your property and make demands of you.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Exceptions being obvious things like bathrooms

You arbitrarily decided what is "obvious". For me it's obvious for my right to privacy to be observed all the time.

I don't want my face to be sent to i.e. Amazon just because I am a courier delivering a package to your house.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I didn't arbitrarily decide anything. It's literally the law.

Edit: If you need help figuring out why a security camera in the bathroom might be a problem. There's no helping you.

Also you clearly didn't read my post at all. On my system, nothing is sent to anyone except me. And as far as you being a courier. Choose a different job if it bothers you. I have a right to know who's on my property... and oftentimes even a DUTY to know.

Edit2: Also there's no such right as "right to privacy". Which I even called out in my post. You have no right to privacy in public or on someone else's property.

[–] Juno@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Someone dox this guy, he went in or space on the internet and now has no right to privacy anymore.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lmao. Doxing someone vs passively recording someone on your own property is not the same and you know it. First off, doxing as a premise is illegal in most of the USA.

But I'm well aware that what I post on my lemmy instance is public. That's the nature of federation. But I will challenge that it's not your space. You're a Beehaw user. Not the server owners/administration. You have no "space" to call your own here. Keep in mind this thread actually lives on lemmy.ml. So you DEFINITELY don't have any rights to this space.

Much to that point... The beehaw/lemmy.ml admins could look at the logs and see my instance information including IP addresses and such. It's their property since I transmitted that data to them free and clear. Nothing wrong with that. And just like I posted in my post... I would hope they treat my data fairly like I do with my cameras. Which record to local storage. I don't put your shit to some random cloud if you walk onto my property. But to be frank, I'm willing to bet that your instance is already hosted in some "cloud". So Amazon or Azure (or whatever platform), already has the data. I'm probably treating people who trespass onto my property better than your instance treats your data. Let that sink in.

[–] Juno@beehaw.org 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But I will challenge that it’s not your space. You’re a Beehaw user. Not the server owners/administration. You have no “space” to call your own here. Keep in mind this thread actually lives on lemmy.ml. So you DEFINITELY don’t have any rights to this space.

[–] Juno@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

I serve only one master, his name is Shayʾ Khulud

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why are you knocking on my door? I don't want people knocking on my door.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 6 months ago

Hell I have signs posted on my door "No Soliciting" and "No Trespassing". Guess how many people knock on my door that claim they're not soliciting literally in the next line to talk about whatever company they represent. Literally violating the law and my rights without a care in the world. But I'm supposed to care when someone has an issue with a camera I own on my property recording my own stuff. Pretty absurd.