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[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Ah yes, Norway. The most oppressed nation on earth.

I think you have socialism confused with communism.

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think you have communism confused with totalitarianism

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

I didn’t want to confuse them. One small step of understanding at a time.

[–] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Norway is not and never was socialist.

Edit: on reflection we are squabbling over definitions here. Seems rather pointless, and I didn't mean to be as ... aggressive as I probably came across. I've just seen more than my share of people on Lemmy genuinely advocating for USSR style systems, so I probably overreacted a bit.

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I get it. Generally people pushing for socialism aren’t pushing to be the USSR. Really what we mean is “Capitalism with really strong socialist safety nets”.

[–] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 2 points 6 months ago

"Capitalism where you don't die if you can't produce" is the goal. "Capitalism where you're still comfortable if you can't produce" would be better, but I can't imagine it happening in my lifetime.

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 6 points 6 months ago

There are a lot of tankies on here since Lemmy was created by self described tankies, so I get it. Most folks on Beehaw are much less aggressive and don't believe that state sponsored violence is a good thing