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‘Hopeless and broken’: why the world’s top climate scientists are in despair (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 6 months ago by straddle@lemmynsfw.com to c/climate@slrpnk.net

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cross-posted from: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/11288860

Instead, Cerezo-Mota expects the world to heat by a catastrophic 3C this century, soaring past the internationally agreed 1.5C target and delivering enormous suffering to billions of people. This is her optimistic view, she says.

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[+] small_crow@lemmy.ca -12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Nah. If the climate crisis turns into societal collapse, and my future children want to avoid the pain of living through the apocalypse, they can kill themselves when things turn bleak. It's the same choice we all have. There's always a way off the ride. Every day any of us live is a day deemed better than the alternative.

[–] Rexios@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bro what the fuck

[–] small_crow@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

OP was begging everyone to stop having kids because they gave up on life - that's better than recognizing we can choose to stop living at any time?

Accepting the end of the human race is a lot more "what the fuck" than accepting the end of a human life, imo.

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean.... Don't raise kids with that mentality

[–] small_crow@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Which mentality?

That human life is worth living, but circumstances may not always be, so we reserve the right to choose our own exit from it, or that choosing to live is saying life is better than death?

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're teaching your children to take their own lives when times are rough. I'm not besmirching your freedom to "exit" or anyone's choice but who are you, me, your kids, to make a decision of that final exit based off of criteria that is subjective and impossible to understand. Not even the very wise can see the end, apocalyptic world or not.

[–] small_crow@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

Tell me where I said I'd teach a child suicide should be front of mind. All I mean is they should get to choose if they live - in response to someone pleading that we all stop having children.

I want to have a child. Why should I not, because the world could be in rough shape due to climate catastrophe? I'll let them make that call and I hope they don't have to.