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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

who picks what habits are good and what are bad? who decides what happens to data beyond this? can you going to mcdonalds twice a day be shared with your health insurer? can you going to that rally be shared with the local police? with your landlord? are you comfortable with everyone knowing everything? because there's two things you do with data: analyze, and sell.

[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I mean they use the data to decide what actions are high risk. Someone tailgating and tapping their brakes constantly is inherently less safe than someone leaving proper distance.

Privacy theft, I get it. An opt out should always be available and easy to use.

If you truly have an issue with insurance deciding what is or isn't safe there are organizations that can take over that such as ASTM or NFPA.

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

can you going to mcdonalds twice a day be shared with your health insurer?

You think this data isn't already shared?

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

you think that I'm in favor of everything I'm not currently talking about?

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Honestly it doesn't really matter what you or I are really in favor of when it comes to privacy and surveillance. Today we're already tracked everywhere. Data privacy is a nice idea and even with all the laws in the world there is no transparency to make sure companies follow them. Our car tracking us is annoying and all but we all carry these things called cell phones which have GPS in them and we keep them on all the time. How many people have apps like facebook installed which harvest all kinds of data and then sell it to whoever is willing to pay? Speeding is already going to be seen with just that data. Even if you turn all the tracking off on your phone the fucking cell company knows where you're connecting from and that data goes right into a little database in a three letter agency.

The US Government today can legally get whatever data they want from anywhere in the US and most of europe. Maybe not your local cop, but someone, somewhere, taking orders from the US government in the name of something like terrorism has access to everything. Corruption is everywhere and everything can and will be abused. Opaque systems like we have today only proliferates corruption.

Technological solutions can absolutely be developed that are transparent and don't give exceptions to cops driving personal vehicles. We absolutely can develop systems where senators, representatives and even billionaires are not above the law, but today in practice they essentially are.

But hey, like I said. My opinion doesn't matter. Yours doesn't either. We don't get any say in how this stuff works. The idea that enforcement of our laws might be applied consistently across the board is terrifying to people because we all do illegal shit all day long in our own little personal corrupt universe. We just want to believe the cops will stop "the other guy" more than us and that we'll be able to be smarter than the system. It's fucked and nothing will change. The owners of the US just want the cops there so they can punish the ones who act out in the order of things in a way that might hurt them or their friends and family, and that's how it's gonna work.