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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/9429920

Dr Henri Waisman, at the IDDRI policy research institute in France, said: “Climate change is not a black or white question and every tenth of a degree matters a lot, especially when you look at the socioeconomic impacts. This means it is still useful to continue the fight.”

and while I agree with the sentiment, we really aren't "fighting" are we, quite the opposite. Every thing we're doing is wrong, how do we know this ? CO~2~ppm is still increasing, fossil fuel use increased in 2023, planes are still droning overhead, cars still driving, more roads being built and winded, the Antarctic is being stripped of krill to make pet food etc

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[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The cynical side of me really can't find an issue with the seas swallowing Florida.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just feel bad for all the wildlife that will have nowhere to move.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They prefer to be called Floridians

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

What will our world be without Floridius Manicus and their adorable antics

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I hear you. The other side of me worries about the other couple billion living near a sea who would just perish.

[–] pezhore@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm not a scientist, but wouldn't the rise be generally slow enough for people to evacuate, causing more of a concern for refugees from Florida spilling into Georgia, Tennessee, etc? It's still bad but I don't think you'd suddenly have a few million people drown one day.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago

Maybe once the US sees significant number of climate IDPs, they will get a bit more empethatic to other climate migrants, but sadly the opposite will probably happen.

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 1 points 5 months ago

Mobility is a thing that mostly exists for the wealthy, as far as I can tell. And with the policies that generally exist down south? Fuck em, they’ll sort it out themselves. I live a thousand feet above sea level, they can figure it out themselves.

So again, my empathy goes to the people who can’t move, not the people who won’t move.