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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The claim that 'the people who killed Nijjar were too young to be state actors' is fallacious to begin with. It's even more tenuous in light of everything else that's known about the murder.

It goes without saying that there's no reason to give any weight to India's denial of involvement. That's all that really needs to be said about that.

Canada expelled an Indian diplomat. There's no reason to do that if India wasn't involved. There's no reason for India not to cooperate with investigations if they're not involved. We know that Five Eyes intelligence exists that makes a connection between the assassination and the Indian government. The intelligence itself hasn't been disclosed (and never will be - sources & methods, etc). So, waiting for that kind of disclosure before forming an opinion on this is folly at best.

The current Canadian government is horribly weak on matters of foreign interference, so if they've been mealymouthed regarding this assassination, I don't think that casts doubt on India's involvement. If anything, it's a suggestion of the opposite.

Given the degraded state of Canada's current foreign policy, it's expected that they would tiptoe around confirming a direct link between India and the assassination, and may choose to never confirm it. That doesn't mean we should infer that a link doesn't exist.

With all that in mind, I don't see any reason to conclude that India wasn't involved.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I know Canadian and the US intelligence both say it’s linked to the Indian government, I’m saying it strange and more then a little sloppy they used kids.

It also hasn’t been proven so I’m holding off making up my mind for now.

[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fair - all I'm saying is, given what we know, it's not a situation of India's involvement being equally likely and unlikely. It's likely, and there are good reasons to believe it to be the case, and no good reasons to doubt it. So I think making a point of saying that it's unproven is nitpicking and doesn't accurately reflect the facts of the matter.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

We don’t know the facts though.

[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

In September, the Canadian prime minister told lawmakers that “agents of the government of India” had been linked to Mr. Nijjar’s killing on Canadian soil

The New York Times - "What We Know About the Killing of a Sikh Separatist in Canada"

Do you have a good reason to doubt the mainstream view on this? The fact that the killers were young isn't a good reason.

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, what do you think about this whole thing?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think it’s strange that the Indian government got a couple young kids to assassinate Nijjar.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Yes, it's strange and disappointing but it's not a claim to take lightly and the fact that it was made makes me inclined to believe.