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[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 59 points 6 months ago (24 children)

I feel like the narrative surrounding the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings has changed enormously since I was a kid.

I remember learning that, while tragic, the number of lives lost in the bombing paled in comparison to the numbers of lives being lost and that would be lost in winning the war by conventional means. That it was a way to minimize further bloodshed.

I'm not super well read on the subject, but is that not true? Or, if it is true, does it not matter?

I'm mostly just trying to figure out what caused the shift.

[–] sbr32@kbin.social 59 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Some disclaimers

I am a 50+ year old American

Up until 10ish years ago I had at least a better than average understanding/knowledge of WWII

My ex's grandmother's family was from Hiroshima and they had family members killed in the bombing.

All that said as tragic as they were I still think those bombs were the correct military decision at that time. I would be willing to have a rational conversation about it though.

The situation in Gaza is completely different and Lindsey Graham and the rest of the GOP are fucking ghouls.

[–] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

To this day gaman or Japanese stoicism is a big part of Japanese culture. The Japanese had already lost the war, but the ruling class was willing to sacrifice scores of people to fight to the bitter end.

In an episode of Hardcore History, it detailed that the Allied ships couldn't dock in Okinawa because of all the corpses in the water. The Japanese had inundated Okinawa with propaganda that the Americans were going to rape them all. Many families killed themselves. And the invasion of the mainland was only going to get bloodier.

A terrible as it is to say, dropping the nukes was the more humane option of the two.

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