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It is probably due to a number of people stopping using their alts after some instance hopping.

Also a few people who came to see how it was, and weren't attracted enough to become regular visitors.

Curious to see at which number we'll stabilize.

Next peak will probably happen after either major features release (e.g. exhaustive mod tools allowing reluctant communities to move from Reddit) or the next Reddit fuck up (e.g. removing old.reddit)

Stats on each server: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

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[–] imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Pretty sure it's going to just be like 12 of us. If the third party app thing on reddit didn't drive users here, unfortunately I don't think anything else will. At this point if you are already content with the reddit app it's going to be a hard sell to say, yeah come check out Lemmy, it's like reddit but if you have a question about your sick betta fish instead of getting a helpful answer in a few minutes, you need to first create a betta fish community, then go back on reddit and recruit users to your Lemmy community. Post content on it daily to maintain interest, and then, if you are really lucky, ask your question and wait a few months and maybe if your fish is still alive (doubtful), you might get a response, but it will probably be just be an anticapitalist shit-post. I'm sorry to say it is this way, but this be the way that it is.

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure it's going to just be like 12 of us

Hexbear has been very active for 3 years before we even federated. There's plenty of room for growth. We're not going to become reddit (and that's a good thing) but acting like it's just going to die (or is already dead) is just ridiculous

[–] imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Hexbear has become a cesspool. Not exactly a great example to aspire to. I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day. I very much enjoyed that experience and want it back. I'm sure plenty of others do to. Im just disappointed that it seems much more likely that Lemmy fizzles than soars. I can't emphasize enough how big and bad a deal the stripping of third party API access to reddit data is. I wish more people felt more strongly about this beyond posting pictures of John Oliver. Not sure if you are old enough to remember when high quality RSS feeds were a thing, but this direct access to data that users could custom curate was amazing. When you take control of how users consent data, you start to take control of the users. Lemmy has immense potential and at face value people are largely fed up with being manipulated and taken advantage of by internet giants, but most are clearly not fed up enough to leave their comfort zone. Spez and the others are well aware of this and happy to take advantage. It takes a ton of effort to keep something like Lemmy afloat. Just like a new restaurant, if after a few months it's not taking off, it's pretty unlikely to do so with more time. I hope I'm wrong, but the Spez nonsense was a huge gift to growing Lemmy, and in the grand scheme of things the effect was quite small.

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hexbear has become a cesspool

Hexbear is an aggressively inclusive space full of thoughtful people who are passionate about making the world a better place and educating their fellow man. If every online space were more like hexbear we'd all be much better off

I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day. I very much enjoyed that experience and want it back. I'm sure plenty of others do to

Oh yeah back in the good old days of /r/jailbait and /r/creepshots and /r/sexwithdogs

[–] LoopingRiver@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Lol.. so inclusive wanting to bring down America, listing out a bunch of people you’d love to get rid of (anyone you consider bourgeoise), unyielding fanboying of China…

I think the overall Lemmy experience has gone downhill since hexbear federated. I also think seeing the propaganda posts constantly hitting the All feed will drive people away. Are there even any non-political hexbear communities? All I ever see are anti-is and pro-China posts.

I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China. Not the most stellar LGBTQIA+ record there.

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everything is political. We have comms that we don't consider political, but you would still consider them political because you would rather they cater to your politics rather than ours. We have !games@hexbear.net for example, but because it's not a liberal comm you would consider it political.

I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China

You're literally professing your support for trans rights and simping for the US in one comment so you must be mega confused

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[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

so inclusive wanting to bring down America

Yes. America is the pre-eminent fascist violence force on Earth and must be brought down for the good of humanity

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[–] eatmyass@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for the USA. Not the most stellar LGBTQIA+ record there.

[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so inclusive wanting to bring down America

boo-hoo

[–] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Amerikkkan crakkkers seething stalin-smokin

[–] Annakah69@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

If you can't wrap your head around being trans and supporting China you need to stop consuming MSM and examine your assumptions.

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I live in the US and it's pretty bad for LGBT people here. I don't feel the need to cheerlead US interventions because they have a coat of rainbow paint.

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[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

think the overall Lemmy experience has gone downhill since hexbear federated.

sicko-hexbear

I am critical of China and I've never been attacked for it on Hexbear. It's ok if you approach topics in good faith and have nuanced arguments rather than just "CPC evil".

Personally I think wanting to destroy the American state as it is today and historically is actually very inclusive.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

so inclusive wanting to bring down America

Paradox of tolerance, babyyy

I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China.

Cuba supports both

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

Nah Hexbear fucks actually

[–] eatmyass@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit

hitler-detector

I wish more people felt more strongly about this beyond posting pictures of John Oliver

that's liberals for you

Hexbear is the new world and you're stuck in the old

[–] ConsciousLochNess@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Now is the time of posters.

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

It's less of a cesspool than every other lemmy instance I've visited which is filled with Reddit-tier libs

[–] Grebgreb@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day

reddit back in the day had a huge jailbait sub

Hexbear has become a cesspool

lol

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You did the thing and riled them up.

[–] WhyIsItReal@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (29 children)

i mean, yeah. if you insult someone, they’ll typically defend themselves

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[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

12 of us

I'm fine with 12 of us if everyone is active.

Hopefully by then we'll have a few active communities and not hundreds of ghost towns like now

[–] itadakimasu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bruh. I'm in group chats with people I know IRL with more than 12 people.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Bring them here!

[–] mars@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Long time hexbear user, I've actually had pretty good luck getting input on non-political questions. No sick fish, but I've asked quite a variety of questions and gotten help. Maybe I would have gotten a higher quality answer on Reddit, but my experience with modern reddit (last 6ish years) has been hit or miss. Reminds me in a way of the forums I used back in the really 2000s. Even though the forums I was on were primarily oriented around tabletop gaming, the "general/off-topic" sections would have quite a variety of people and interests. And those people, since they all had a common interest, were far more talkative and generous with their time than what I've experienced in Reddit. IMO this makes up for the smaller population. Hexbear has that vibe for me, just with a non-sectarian socialist shitposting focus. Which works for me.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Summed up my feelings too. Reddit's larger communities were trash, but for really specific questions, it was unbeatable. Not to mention the fact that most Lemmy pages are either tech-related or tankie propaganda. There's very little in the way of active hobby/lifestyle boards so unless you're in either a nerd (non-derogatory) or a communist (derogatory), Lemmy's not got much going on for you

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s very little in the way of active hobby/lifestyle boards so unless you’re in either a nerd (non-derogatory) or a communist (derogatory), Lemmy’s not got much going on for you

So true.

I have been trying to revive !personalfinance@lemmy.ml , !casualconversation@lemmy.world , even !parenting@lemmy.world but it feels a lot like shouting into the abyss.

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[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Well, i am here directly due to reddit policy changes. The loss of a viable mobile option forced me here. I can't believe I am not an average case. I am enjoying this experience so far and will definitely spread the word. But i will continue to use reddit on the computer... I am surprised that there are only 60,000 of us here though.