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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (9 children)

I am automatically suspicious of anyone who's a patriotic American. Either they're ignorant of our country's history and are idiots or they're proud of it and are psychopaths.

Edit: I just realized I'm paraphrasing Patrick O'Brien:

But you know as well as I, patriotism is a word; and one that generally comes to mean either my country, right or wrong, which is infamous, or my country is always right, which is imbecile.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

For me, the difference between nationalism and patriotism is that patriotism is about what a country could be. It's a willingness to sacrifice some portion of one's own prosperity to make a better country for all. That's certainly not what right wingers call patriotism though.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I guess I'm a patriot because I like to imagine that a country could be not existing. Nation-states were a bad idea.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You are in my book, assuming you're ready to make sacrifices towards that potential future. I personally think nation states are a necessary step towards something that humanity is clearly not ready for in the future, but I think we could have come up with some far better implementations.

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