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    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    People who are mad at the "Linux community" amuse me. It just makes you sound like a baby.

    [–] MudMan@fedia.io 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    I mean, call it what you want, that's why I qualified it in the first place.

    I'm not mad at them, but it's been long enough that I do find it frustrating that you can't share any degree of a technical problem or UX issue without having a bunch of people crawl from under every rock to share with you the same three pieces of Linux 101 advice.

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Your problem is that people want to help you "wrong". That's my point exactly.

    [–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Nah, I don't have a problem at all. That's my point. I never asked for help and got a bunch of condescending, inapplicable, very basic advice regardless.

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    You sounded angry and childish to me. /Shrug

    You could've just said "I'm knowledgeable and have tried those things" but instead you wrote a tirade against the whole community

    [–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    The third time.

    I shrugged it off the first couple of times. Which, if I say so myself, was big of me, considering this has been going on for twenty five years. I'm exceedingly patient, if anything.

    Look, it's the age-old story of social media: your well-intentioned post with basic anecdote is the first time you bring it up, but the hundredth time the person you're responding to has been in this exact conversation. They're not snippy at you because they're trolling or arrogant, they've just been having a dozen people tell them the same obviously wrong exact thing every five minutes for a while and are increasingly unwilling to go through the motions.

    That's a big, important lesson when you're trying to make an online space grow, if you want to be constructive about it and bring this little spat back to topic.

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    It was also easy to just not respond.

    [–] MudMan@fedia.io 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    I mean... yeah. Wiser, too.

    Welcome to social media. That ship sailed like a decade ago. Also applies to both of us equally.

    [–] Promethiel@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    You're like a rogue, misunderstood Guru on a journey of 'I know leave me alone, I was describing the meta-woes of seeming to carry a dearth of knowledge, not the lack itself'.

    Just pointing out from a passing ship; yeah, I see the semantic headaches and agree it's a silly maritime tradition.

    [–] MudMan@fedia.io 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Nah, my point is there is no "dearth of knowledge", there is a genuine lack of support and I said so at the off pretty openly in far less florid language.

    But also, if it took a "guru" to get this stuff done that'd be a good argument against this stuff being viable for the mainstream, and about how useless the basic advice being provided would be, so it works for me either way.