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r/The_Donald now on Lemmy (edit: not anymore) (feddit.de)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Tsinc@feddit.de to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml

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It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies.

In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into our timelines.

The instance-admin of !thedonald@sh.itjust.works did not reply to my message. Big instances seem not to defederate with them.

The new TD may not be a success, the point is not to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists.

Where are the instances that show face against racism?

edit: to contact the admins: @donut @TheDude @smorks

edit2: @TheDude deleted the community :)

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[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think anyone wants racism to spread. I mean- look at the rules for my instance for example. There aren't many.

Don't be an asshole
Don't be racist.
Don't spam.

The only point I am trying to address here- defederating instances, is going to kill this platform MUCH faster then just letting that one, tiny echo-chamber exist.

Lets say, we block that community and ban it. The problem is solved, right?

Absolutely not!, now you are going to have a bunch of those followers attacking lemmy with a vengeance, trying to push the agenda at every single corner!

On the other side- I think it is in the best interests of the platform as a whole, to remain somewhat neutral.

Sure, we have have individual communities who prefer left-wing, or right-wing. We have have instances dedicated to being liberal or conservative.

But- at a platform level, immediately bashing out on communities because it is against another's belief- is going to cause a lot more problems than it solves. Think about it, do you honestly thing the_donald would have ever existed if the tension from reddit didn't cause them to form their own echo chamber?

(Also- before anyone comments on my political affiliation- I am libertarian. I do not give a rats ass who you vote for, and I openly support your choice and right to vote how you choose.)

Also- other then your dislike for the_donald- have, they broken any rules? Have, they said anything racist?

I am quite willing to bet, they will be banned on the spot for being racist.

[–] BaldManGoomba@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yes. Fox News wasn't right wing and fascist enough. So they created OAN. They are willing to make there own thing to make layers of deeper circles. Fox News is a pipeline to OAN but ever since OAN was banned from most services the alt right was quieted until other pipelines funneled them to the derangement. Each subsequent deeper circle gets less reach when you kill the pipelines.

It is the paradox of tolerance. You can be welcoming to everyone with the same ideologues of tolerance that is the social contract of an open and welcoming society. But as soon as a rat comes in trying to spread intolerance and hate you must sever them out and cut them out to stop the spread. If you don't want racists purge them as soon as possible and don't let them get footing in the community. If you don't want assholes kick them out. Making a secondary account after they change their mind and want to be apart of a welcoming society is easy. But purging people who have infiltrated the highest parts of society after deciding you had enough is impossible.