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[–] regul@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

It's only a zero sum game if they view driving as an essential and immutable part of themselves, and even then, not really.

Charging adequate prices for street parking, for example, guarantees that you'll always be able to park easily if you need to, a luxury not provided by free parking.

And then, of course, they could always just get out of their cars and immediately start benefitting from the changes.

[–] cor@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

zero sum in that there is limited amount of space… so space from something but be subtracted in order to add it to the space of something else….
it’s not a metaphor, it’s about the total being the same. it’s mathematical and squarely fits the definition of zero sum.

[–] regul@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

That accepts the framing that we're designing for cars/bikes/peds. We're not. We're designing for people, whether they're in a car, on a bike, etc.

In that sense it's very much not zero-sum.

[–] cor@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

what? no it doesn’t, and yeah people need some sort of transportation and the city will have limited space to accommodate all of those.
so in that sense: zero sum.

[–] regul@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Whether the road space is dedicated to cars or bikes, it's still dedicated to people.

[–] cor@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago
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