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Cos if so why can I see a whole bunch of mod actions on the lemmy.ml mod-log but not here? If it doesn't how/why would any other instance respect a moderation action by another instance let alone know about it?

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[–] sunaurus@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Most actions federate, any exceptions which aren't federated yet are generally just there because the federation logic has not been implemented (but improvements are constantly being worked on).

Generally federating the modlog is mostly just there for informative purposes. As in, we can check what mod actions were taken on instance A through the modlog on instance B (and there is no mechanism in Lemmy for other instances to retroactively remove or hide federated modlog items, btw).

[–] Alice@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sup man how are you ? From what I've seen from you as an admin, you are a pretty decent dude. I feel like lemm.ee is one of the few how do I say this ?

'Chill' instances on lemmy. I think a lot of people appreciate that. I do for sure.

That said,

2 things

Can you dumb what you said down? Like way down lol I get what you are saying, but I'd understand it more throughly broken down elementary school style if u don't mind. I think that would also maybe help the people who aren't as technical being fediverse has a lot of moving parts.

Lastly I have a question

Im 2nd of another admin on our instance, and sometimes I'll see removed posts or comments to which I can restore them. What is up with that ? I don't get it.

Can other admins remove my instance stuff vise versus? And restore vise versa ?

[–] sunaurus@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

Regarding your question:

Lemmy federation basically works by copying stuff from their source instance to all other federated instances. So if I write a comment on lemm.ee, other federated instances will get their own copy of my comment. They will also all know that the "authority" for this comment is lemm.ee.

If an admin on another instance decides to delete their local copy of my comment on lemm.ee, then they are always free to do so (for example, some instances might want to moderate more strictly), but any actions they take like this are limited to their own instance - for the rest of Lemmy, lemm.ee remains the authority for this comment, so individual remote instance admins taking actions won't have any effect on any other instances.

As for the original topic of modlog federation, basically it just boils down to this: just like with the comment example above, Lemmy instances also save a local copy of incoming federated mod logs. The Lemmy software does not yet have 100% coverage in terms of federating mod logs (for example, there are no federated logs yet for instance admins banning remote users), but this coverage has been increasing, and I expect this will eventually get to 100% (just needs more dev time really).

Also, if some instance admins try to tamper with their mod logs, then other instances can still see the real history, because there is no way for an instance admin to delete copies of their mod log from other instances.