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Six incredibly popular climate policies | The majority of registered US voters support electrification and renewable energy. (yaleclimateconnections.org)
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[–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Are you saying you don't also want the 6 things they talk about on the article? The point is there's is broad public support for a range of good policies, so let's try to aggressively do those things. We can also work on other, harder things.

I'm a bike commuter and a strong towns type too, but despite this basket of policies being beneficial to everyone, it's like a prisoners dilemma of inaction. The chicken and egg game of removing parking and building transit is just exhausting and unfortunately doesn't poll well because most people can't think long term (or even medium term).

[–] sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As bike commuter who's been run over and knows numerous people hit/killed by drivers, I stand by what I said. It's not that I don't want the other things, this is just something I'm deeply passionate about.

[–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I respect that (and am also very passionate about this topic too). I was nearly hooked just yesterday while in our new "protected bike lane" by some asswipe in an SUV and fortunately braked hard early because of a weird feeling I had about them when I glanced over. I was just loosely trying to stay on topic here. Stay safe friend.

[–] sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I feel like at the very least public transportation should be brought up in the conversations. I get why it doesn't poll well as a lot of people just associate it with criminals and homeless people, or at least what people have expressed to me about it. But definitely stay safe on the road!

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

That's exactly what they're doing. It's a common strategy reflect redirect and misdirect. What's the easiest way to stop climate positive initiatives? Cause disunity and fragmentation among those that support climate initiatives.