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Why don’t you like Apple? (lemmy.zip)

submitted 5 months ago by Betawhat@lemmy.zip to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Real question. I would like to know what drives you to hate Apple? (In terms of privacy of course because in terms of price it’s another story).

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[–] subtext@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They can lie about how the advanced data encryption works…. But then they also tell you that you’re shit outta luck if you forget or screw up your decryption code. If they really had a back door, then I would expect them to take a much less hard line on you’re screwed if you lose the key.

I would be surprised if they had a back door too given how they’ve pushed back on back doors from the NSA and EU

[–] electro1@infosec.pub -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean they understand their encryption algorithm, they made it after all, and with the advancements of Quantum computing it could be possible to decrypt someone's data... So what good does providing quantum computing for Imessages do... If they : understand how the algorithm works + they have enough computing power to decrypt it + it's proprietary.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was all a theater, and it's the best backdoor implementation to exist

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This feels a lot like the argument of well what if they break TLS? A lot of hypotheticals when I don’t have any reason or proof to believe that they’ve made a back door

[–] electro1@infosec.pub 1 points 5 months ago

No, breaking an encryption is all about knowing how it works, many cryptographers make their algorithm proprietary in hopes that an attacker will have a hard time figuring how it works, however they turn out to be weak, other encryption algorithms are developed in the open so that many people look at it and see the flaws

The key word is : weak The idea is not making a backdoor directly, the idea is making it flawed, it's like securing a bank with steel doors with the exception of one door, that door is made out of wood and only you know where it's located.