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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Southern Occupation style military police detachment,

A soldier fresh out of bootcamp has more trigger discipline and de-escalation training than your typical blue bastard anyways, and the federal military answers to the federal government, so they can't negotiate qualified immunity agreements or any of that shit, and their funding is already provided, so no quota meeting traffic ticketing.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I agree about trigger discipline and de-escalation training, don't they also have training to dehumanize their opponent?

Maybe I'm missing something, what exactly is " Southern occupation style military police detachment"?

I will say right off the bat that I completely support way more training for police officers and a far more rigorous screening.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The post civil war occupation of the south.

It was basically a brief golden age for black leadership in the south because that's how "not letting anyone fuck around" the union occupation force was with the traitors.

It was so effective at cock blocking the terrorist little shitbags that the red second they had enough political leverage they had them disbanded and proceeded to immediately kick off the first golden age of the klan.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But you still think it's a good idea to use MPs in civilian metropolitan areas?

I'm not totally against the idea if only because there's so much more training.

Like you say, I'd be a little wary of retaliation with even more heavy-handed law enforcement.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If it's good enough to keep the racists rightfully terrified for their miserable lives, it's good enough for the rest of us to have a law enforcement infrastructure that actually protects and serves us.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

It's at least worth looking into, although at this point I can't say I trust the civic virtue of the military any more than I trust the civic virtue of the police.