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Right now on Lemmy we have a bunch of dad-based communities with varying levels of discussion. From the ones I can find, we have:

!dadworld@lemmy.world - last few posts were about a month ago. Mod was last active 10 months ago.

!daddit@kbin.social - last couple posts were about 2 months ago. The post before that was about 5 months ago. Not sure about mod activity.

!dads@feddit.uk - last post was yesterday, with some other posts in past few weeks. Mod was last active 6 months ago.

!dadsonly@lemmy.world - last post was a few weeks ago, with a couple months in between posts after that. Mod was last active 10 months ago.

!dadsplain@lemmy.ca - last couple posts were a week ago. With about a month or so between posts after that. Both mods were last active a year ago.

!dadvice@lemmy.world - last post was 3 months ago. Mod was last active 2 months ago.

!fatherverse@midwest.social - last post was about a month ago, and the one before that was about 4 months ago. Mod was last active today.

To help facilitate discussion, what do you all think about consolidating the dad-based discussion to one of those groups (preferably a somewhat moderated one, which just seems to be fatherverse…) for now?

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[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Crossposts don't aggregate comments. If you ask "How was your father's day" on 7 dad communities, you are going to split the answers across the 7 communities.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Comments don't need aggregation.

Look, we obviously have a difference in philosophy of the fediverse here.

So, let me back up a second and explain that.

The fediverse should be about communities being disparate. No single instance, no single mod or admin owning an idea, or the consequent community that forms around an idea. Part of why reddit became so horrible was the inability to have a viable alternative community around a subject when one went off the rails because someone had total control over a word, like "parenting", or "knives" or "gaming".

The more you consolidate communities, the more you give fewer entities control of a idea/concept/subject.

Comment aggregation is nice, if all you want is a single feed to scroll through, but the price of it is too high.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Alright, so let's apply this principle.

You seem to be posting from time to time to !metal@lemmy.world. Where is the alternative community on another instance you crosspost to?

Part of why reddit became so horrible was the inability to have a viable alternative community around a subject when one went off the rails because someone had total control over a word, like “parenting”, or “knives” or “gaming”.

Hm, I'm not sure you are aware, but I am among the ones pushing for

So I am indeed aware of what you are saying, and I agree to an extend.

But as I said, you still need a minimum amount of activity to keep a community, alternative or not, active. Dads and parents communities aren't active anywhere on Lemmy yet, so it's more important now to first identify people, and then allow them to move or split.

Star Trek communities seems to coexist and be active enough because the topic is popular enough among the Lemmy population. It's not the case for every topic.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ummmm, welllll, I don't actually post much to any other metal communities because they tend to have different rules for posting, and different people. This is one of those things where I'm a bad example of the "advice" I'm giving. I'm not a big poster anywhere. Wasn't on reddit either tbh. I genuinely wish I could find the same "vibe" as the .world metal C/ that was also friendly to direct YouTube links. There's a couple of good metal communities on lemmy, but they tend to dislike the YouTube links, or you catch hell for it from other users lol. It's one of those where I'm not following my own beliefs because it screws up other people's flow.

I get where you're coming from about needing minimum activity to make a subject matter to build a true community. I even agree, it's consolidating the smaller ones into a central one and hoping it can split up later rather than just disintegrating after some schism in the user base that I object to on a meta level.

I just think that spreading awareness of the various communities and encouraging crosstalk is a better long term goal.

Also, I hope that my word choices and phrasing don't come off aggro or with ill intent. I've been reminded that tone isn't conveyed well via text today with an unrelated chat away from lemmy. Since there's been a few points where I might have taken my own words wrong, just want to clarify that if this was in person, my tone would be friendly and you'd see me smiling at someone that's wanting to build good community.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago

Also, I hope that my word choices and phrasing don’t come off aggro or with ill intent. I’ve been reminded that tone isn’t conveyed well via text today with an unrelated chat away from lemmy. Since there’s been a few points where I might have taken my own words wrong, just want to clarify that if this was in person, my tone would be friendly and you’d see me smiling at someone that’s wanting to build good community

No worries!