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[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The work environment is also toxic. I read that some large japanese companies have rooms where employees have to sit and do nothing if they want to get rid of them. Because firing them would mean admitting you where wrong to hire them and could not get them on board, so that is loss of face.

[–] th3dogcow@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It’s not about losing face. It is the fact that seishain, or permanent employees are very hard to fire. The company needs to keep a record of the employee’s failures.

In addition, the company needs to implement and execute improvement plans. The results of those need to be reviewed. The next plan has to be implemented. And so on.

Only when they fail to show improvement a certain number of times (I don’t know exactly) can they be legally fired. You can’t just fire someone like in the U.S. style of at will employment. That would be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

So it is easier and cheaper to “persuade” the employee to resign.

However, this terrible behavior is considered to be power harassment, and all large companies now have ethics hotlines. Also, companies have to provide annual trainings on issues like this. So, I hope this practice is decreasing.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 15 points 4 months ago

Don't need to go to Japan for that, it's a common tactic in the west too to get the employee to quit.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 7 points 4 months ago

Corporate "culture" around the world is different but at the end of the day it is always about punking somebody below you...

Back in the day this was called jail house rules lol