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Funny, the comment types here are the same as on Youtube:

  1. "I still run Android and it is totally fine, will never switch Android just got worse!"
  2. "Well, money"
  3. "Companies need to support phones longer"
  4. "I just use LineageOS on that device"
  5. Misinformation
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[–] cranberryjam@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My phone was on 11 and wasn't receiving security updates so I said fuck it and installed lineage os. Nice experience so far, hoping to make this phone last at least a few more years.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

LineageOS has very slow updates. Also they dont have access to all the code they need. I dont even know if they port a newer Kernel to these devices, so they likely still run the outdated, vulnerable kernel they used before.

Also, they dont have access to the Firmware signing keys so they cant deliver firmware updates, which (especially mobile network stuff) causes a ton of security issues.

Sucks...

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lineage OS is updated monthly. Also what are you talking about? The code is all available and under a libre license I might add. From a kernel perspective you can't just port a newer kernel. That's not how Android works. It has been done on some devices but it is very hard and usually very impossible for one reason or another.

From a signing perspective I don't know but usually you get the firmware from the upstream manufacturer such as Qualcomm. From a security perspective phones aren't very good as the modem runs its own software and is a total black box.

I don't understand your motivations

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The code is all available and under a libre license I might add. From

Not the proprietary drivers that vendors may build into their versions of Android.

From a kernel perspective you can't just port a newer kernel. That's not how Android works. It

Tell my why?

It has been done on some devices but it is very hard and usually very impossible for one reason or another.

The kernel is highly modified, yes. Porting is a ton of work, which is exactly what I said. Thats the reason why there is no support for newer kernels most of the time.

you get the firmware from the upstream manufacturer such as Qualcomm.

Yes and if they stop sending it, you dont get security patches here anymore. Cant sign it, cant patch it. What I said.

as the modem runs its own software and is a total black box.

Absolutely. Luckily Airplane mode is pretty good.

I don't understand your motivations

People here tell a lot of wrong things. Like that LineageOS could support devices fully after they are dropped by their vendor. Or that running some old version of Android is fine, while they just focus on UI elements.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

"Wrong things" are just your opinion. You and people like you are the reason I don't care for Graphene OS. Take your throwns else where.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago

No, thats not an opinion. But to be honest it doesnt matter what you use. That just matters to you and people close to you.