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Hyprland is now fully independent! (hyprland.org)
submitted 3 months ago by Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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geteilt von: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/19377025

[...] I announce that our move off of wlroots is now complete and MR 6608 is now merged.

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[–] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Seems like a very bad decision

[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why? Hyprland has been limited by wlroots multiple times in the past.

[–] porl@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Do you have examples of this? Not being contrarian, I actually run Hyprland myself. I'm just curious where the limitations of wlroots have been.

[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

the blog post inside the linked blog post goes over some points. each point is copy and pasted more or less.

  • like for example the multiple times I've spent dozens of hours debugging a single issue only for it to turn out a small typo or a careless mistake that any language would catch at compile time, except for C
  • Memory safety issues arising from the absolute lack of any documentation whatsoever of wlroots have also been quite the annoyance
  • The development of a display server is very complicated, as they are very broad and complex pieces of software. Mixing a C library with 0 documentation is basically asking for trouble.
  • new wayland features that require changes in wlroots tend to take ages to get merged into wlroots, like for example tearing, where a basically ready MR took 9 months to merge
  • explicit sync still not being a thing, despite KDE and Gnome having implementations already (I believe it is now, but not at the time of the blog post)
[–] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

competing standards

[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

this doesn't apply here. hyprland has announced that "all your wlroots programs will still work". so they are keeping support for wlr protcols

[–] Baleine@jlai.lu 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think its a good idea not having wlroots everywhere, its important so that people dont just assume every wlroot extension is available

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People advocating for Xorg make exactly the opposite argument and wlroots got a home at FDO for a reason. Also, this is not a move away from wlroots on technological grounds, it's because the Hyprland developer got banned because of his behavior.

[–] quick@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 months ago

Hyprland never used wlroots itself. It always used a fork of it.