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[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (25 children)

Yeah, it's something worth further thought. Somewhat related is this comment by @JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee to @FauxPseudo@lemmy.world on a c/Heathcliff thread about communities that are kept alive by a single poster:

This is a distinct problem I’ve discovered as someone who aims to post daily in my Euro-comics community-- that while it does gradually increase the subscriber count, it also (speculating here) tends to create a userbase that’s content to sit back and let someone else do the work.

So, psychologically and motivationally, I’m thinking it might even discourage contributors, especially since I try to research well everything I post, and usually post multiple images. Not unlike how you always add the reference comic as well as frequent bonus content… plus the funny comments, of course.

In other words, the two audiences are getting quality stuff without needing to lift a finger. Where is their motivation supposed to come from, daggit?

That's a great point, not sure what the answer is.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (23 children)

Hola, Rolando!
So-- I think this why any healthy community needs casual posters. I mean, it's all very well for the founders, mods & awesome posters like @anon6789@lemmy.world at c/SuperbOwl to post excellent content on a regular basis, but we also need people coming from the zen / beginner's side of things to post topics like 1) "Help me remember this media?," 2) "What is your opinion on X?," 3) "I need help with this issue," 4) "Hey look, here's my latest gear / shelfie / etc!"

Yes, and I'm largely stating the obvious, but how do we get there? One idea would be for the 'content creators' to turn around and post from the other direction (as above). I've actually had decent luck with that in the past, when the community was much smaller, but for whatever reason I stopped doing that. The point of course is to set an example for others to follow, but also to put our members in the position to help out the show-runners, so to speak. Let them have a turn to be the 'experts.'

Anyway, that's one idea.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I've gotten lucky to get a few regular commentors by this point. Getting post content is easy relative to how hard it is to get those comments, so I always try to make anyone that comments feel important and special for doing so.

I always try to make a response to whatever they say. Even if they just say "I like this" I can always throw in a "I'm so glad you liked it! What was your favorite part?" to let them know someone noticed their comment, and also if I can, throw in that question to try and get a second comment, since I already have them talking to me. Gotta give that positive reinforcement. My group is a bit more niche, so I can't really pose a question as a topic most times.

Owl of the Year gave people something to talk about as well, and for them to communicate with each other and not just me as they tried to win people over to their side of the voting. It really can take a bit of time, but I try to know my audience. I'm really trying to stay tuned into it now, as I think my subs have peaked.

Following all these threads with the other posters has been a big help too. It shows me I'm not alone in the struggles of building something, and I can get a feel for how others are doing what they do. That's why I always try to chime in on these things, as this is NOT a specialty of mine being social with strangers, but I want this place to thrive so I have to push myself, and I want to give support back to the rest of you to grow this beast from all directions.

Be open, meet people from other communities, talk to them, participate in their communities to give them some comments to attract others, and that's all we can do. Just keep making it the place you want to hang out at.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right on, A6789.
In fact I recall reading you stating the body of such not too long ago, and I thought it very smart, pragmatic, and kind. Okay, let's see:

I’ve gotten lucky to get a few regular commentors by this point. So far we get semi-regular & random folks, which is cool of course, but regulars would be nice, you know?

I mean, it would be nice to share more of where we're each coming from, keep in mind our likes & dislikes, and do little 'tip of the caps' to them. I'd like that, if possible.

Gotta give that positive reinforcement.

I love that whole technique, and I salute your approach, but at the same time, Euro GN's border (or encompass) serious, heavy themes & content, and I'm afraid it would falter on the edge of being pedantic if I was to go too far in that direction.

Altho for the record, in terms of my screwups, there's me BLOWING MY TOP in the comments:
https://lemm.ee/post/37318592

Be open, meet people from other communities, talk to them, participate in their communities to give them some comments to attract others, and that’s all we can do.

Good points!
Altho A6789-- mate, you know you're allowed to change your public-facing username whilst keeping your core name for login purposes, etc.

I'm just being silly here, but whadya think, whadya think:

  • OwlHead Jones
  • Hooter Howdy
  • Owlicious (Delicious)
  • ThatLittleRodentIsDoomed

...

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm glad you and that other person dealt with things in the long run.

It can be hard to find positive aspects in much of what is going on around the world, but all is not lost. There are those out there helping migrants, bringing aid to warzones, and others doing great things. For anything bad we can find, there's an opposite story to tell about those who are trying to make it better. Rather than telling the stories about the villains, let us tell stories about the heroes more.

I occasionally think about changing my name, or at least coming up with an alt account for when I express my opinions rather than doing my work on Superbowl, but this is me at this point. I try to keep it civil and avoid anything controversial, but I think I'm on with who I am and how I present myself here. Just as IRL, not everyone will like me or my opinions, but that is ok as well.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For anything bad we can find, there’s an opposite story to tell about those who are trying to make it better. Rather than telling the stories about the villains, let us tell stories about the heroes more.

Hmm, I like your kindly, rather philosophical nature, too!

Rather than telling the stories about the villains, let us tell stories about the heroes more.

Oh, settle down there... We're all heroes & villains at the end of the day, didn't you get that memo?

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've mainly just been enjoying the stories from the It Could Happen Here podcast where they talk about their personal experiences working at the border. I've learned so much about the conditions there and learning about all the different people trying to come here despite what happens to them asking the way.

I'd much rather hear from those people helping than hearing more about Texas politicians making things worse. They also provide resources to learn how to get involved to help make things better. The news just tells the drama without providing any kind of answers or help, but there are stories of positivity to be found.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But... why is it even a QUESTION of extending some decency and goodwill, in such case? Illegal immigrants is NOT a real issue in the USA. In fact, it's a critical shortage.

Sorry, I'm a bit pissed-off. @anon6789@lemmy.world

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I don't think most people understand what all is involved in coming here, that not everyone can just get in a plane or bus or something and just magically end up in America or Germany or wherever.

Even as someone in favor of allowing everyone equal access and opportunity, I greatly misunderstood the dangers of coming here and how complex the process of coming into the country legally is.

Some people can be shitty people, but many just aren't informed of the facts. If you just take everyone as a bad person from the start, we just fight. We can calmly share facts and stories of what is really going on, and hopefully people will be receptive and their opinions can change. I feel most people are lied to about immigration or just uninformed all together.

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