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I made a post on asklemmy @ lemmy.ml and it was deleted by mods apparently due to "super toxic comments" that users made. I didn't get a chance to view all the comments and still would like to. However, using this backlog: https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&userId=2461030 , https://lemmy.ml/post/3809854 It says that the post couldn't be found. Not sure if that's just a temporary server issue or it's gone completely. Is there a way to view posts that were deleted by mods (even if you made the post yourself)?

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[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Yeah I don’t like this behavior. If nothing else, the creator should at least be able to see the post in their profile.

[–] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Agreed. Another thing I would change is that I wasn't alerted that the post had been removed, only saw that it was missing from my profile. And I only found the reason for the deletion once I used the backlog feature, which isn't a feature that's made immediately known to users (I only found it after researching).

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

What was the title of the post? I can see if it’s still cached on my side.

[–] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"If it's acceptable..." was the title. Thanks 🙂

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks so much for that, I really appreciate it!

I hope this is alright to ask, but do you agree with why they removed the post? Or would there be a way to appeal a removal in a case like this, when the reason given for removal doesn't seem to reflect the content? It doesn't seem accurate to me at all.

The reason given was this, from moderator candyman337 who commented:

"Locking this thread because this question seems to be inviting people to express ideologies of eugenics and that's a big nono."

This mod's comment received 4 downvotes.

I suppose they removed it completely after that, and I was able to find a reason listed as "super toxic comments" (the comments don't seem toxic to me at all, but I suppose that's subjective).

But with regard to the eugenics reason... uhhh what? I read the comments and there is no discussion of eugenics, and my question posed in the post also didn't relate to or encourage discussion of eugenics at all.

I found one comment that mentioned eugenics and that's it, and it seemed to be deemed by others to be as unrelated to the topic as I found it, since this comment received 3 downvotes and was left with a score of -2:

"this is eugenicist propaganda."

The comment this 'eugenicist propaganda' comment was in response to:

"Just because you are made uncomfortable by a comparison does not invalidate it, nor should it be shunned unless it is factually incorrect. In many places the disabled and mentally ill are treated like animals or worse. Unfortunately alot of the world does not fall under our idea of "humane" and that should be recognized and utilized as a data point."

I fail to understand how that comment had anything to do with eugenics, and then shortly after the mod locked the thread saying that my question was encouraging discussions of eugenics, based on that one person's seemingly irrelevant comment.

This doesn't seem fair to me, and it makes me wonder if just one single person commenting "this is eugenicist propaganda" in response to something that has nothing to do with that, will cause the whole post to be locked or removed, regardless of the topic?

Something tells me this mod was just looking for any reason to take down the post due to personal gripes with it, but I'm not claiming I know that. The reason really doesn't make sense at all.

Sorry for the long comment and thanks again for the help!

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 3 points 1 year ago

You’re welcome.

No, I don’t agree with how it was handled. I don’t know anything about the instance and their rules either. If you plan to have similar discussions, you should probably avoid the instance honestly. I personally hate saying the word toxic as a blanket word for everything. I also hate all the weird political lingo I’m not used to seeing elsewhere since jumping to Lemmy. It’s not my thing, and I avoid it other than maybe making fun of stuff in the news.

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