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[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (16 children)

while we do need competition and variety on the market, electronics with Chinese origin raise serious concerns though. given China's present political trajectory it's not too far fetched to assume that vehicles will have remote backdoors that could be used for remote control of a vehicle. So unless those are "dumb" vehicles (which is highly unlikely) this is unlikely to be a good thing in a long run

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The threat that chinese EVs pose to north american consumers has been vastly overblown by paranoid US nationalists and protectionist automakers who don't fancy the competition. I'm not saying the chinese government is amazing no notes, just that this is a nothing issue.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I wish that cars in general had fewer reliance on electronic systems though, and some non-critical modules could be optionally disabled by the owner without rendering the car inoperable..

[–] sonori@beehaw.org 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In my experience you can typically just pull the fuse for the cell transmitter is you don’t want the vehicle phoning home, though they annoying tend to rely on the radio module for things like carplay and radio so it’s not a perfect solution.

Some manufacturers rely on the same module for the key fob though, so some research is required.

Definitely wish it was just an option in settings, but i’m not sure I would trust it if it was.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

More physical kill switches in electronic devices would be nice in general.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The boat has sailed on that one unfortunately.

Safety requirements outright demand these things nowadays, and these safety things do save lives, of the occupants, pedestrians, and the other vehicles involved in the crash.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about disabling safety systems though.

The safety systems require the cars to be what you don't want and the requirements just keep increasing.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago

@droopy4096 In addition to this, it's well-reported now that several American automakers share vehicle acceleration data with insurance companies, so drivers are being monitored without their awareness and could face a hike in insurance fees if they're detected as being a little too reckless in the passive acceleration data monitoring. I haven't heard of any non-American automakers doing this. And while the consequences of the "Chinese government shutting down all EVs in NA via some electronic backdoor" are greater than this, one is speculation about the future and the other's current fact

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

It will probably just listen to us and try to sell us stuff, just like the many of the others.

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