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[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (17 children)

Two questions if that's the reasoning: how often are you driving 600 let alone 300 miles? How often are you out of range of charging, if at all? Charging at fast chargers already only takes 20 minutes, the same amount it takes to pee and get a drink.

Charging at home makes range not matter. It's not gas, you're just always charged up. You don't want to sit at 100% anyway, because again, it's not gas.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (16 children)

The object is to get people to give up gas cars, you do that by providing a better range and a "refill" time roughly equivalent with sitting at a gas pump.

And, yeah, vast areas of the country do not yet have good access to charging stations:

https://www.axios.com/2024/06/25/charging-deserts-evs-electric-cars

https://www.eenews.net/articles/ev-charging-deserts-are-growing-in-rural-areas-study/

https://www.hbs.edu/bigs/the-state-of-ev-charging-in-america

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (15 children)

You're missing the point: it's not like gas, and can't be compared as such. If you have a home charger, you never need to use public charging except when road tripping, because your car charges within 4-6ish hours (my home charger does around ~22mi/hr), or overnight if you have a slower charger. You cannot do the same with gas unless you just top off at the gas pump every day.

I'm not trying to get into charging deserts right now - frankly, most people do not live in them, and thus make up less of the EV market at the moment. We haven't even come close to meeting your given objective of replacing gas in even populated areas. Anyway, this article is about a 600 mile solid state battery that will only be in luxury $200k+ cars (which most people in very rural counties wouldn't be able to afford), if at all. Not charging deserts.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not everyone has a house...

I'm living in an apartment and charging at home is not an option. I do have a EV though and when we take a larger trip, I need to plan a bit more to charge up before the trip.
That sucks a bit, else it's pretty great

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think landlords should, legally, have to allow you to put a wallbox at the space where you park your car. Maybe they should also just have to pay it themselves. It's stupid that people have to pay so much more and go through such a hassle to charge their car because, I assume, landlords dom't allow them to put a wallbox at their car's parking space.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

I own the apartment and even a parking place, that's my own. but just doing the cableing will cost me a few thousand Euros.
And I'm one of the lucky ones who don't need to search through public parking slots.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fair point, yep. But it is still very possible to road trip in most places without 600 miles of range or a home charger, and it only seems to be getting easier. I was mostly referring to those in the aforementioned "charging desert" counties in the US which are majority standalone single-family residences.

Hopefully in the future, it's a requirement for modern apartments.

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