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[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yeah but can't you just get a thing that tells things that you're using chrome when you're not

[–] Fashim@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yeah I've got an extension for it, it just changes the user-agent string.

I use it on YouTube because for some totally not suspicious reason Firefox won't play videos but when I spoof it to Chrome everything works fine.

[–] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've noticed significant YouTube quality degradation when using Firefox, but no issues with Chrome.

Got a link for the extension by any chance?

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

User-agent is being deprecated, so it won't work forever.

Also note that if people keep their UA as Chrome permanently, hit counters will count them as Chrome users, and the number of Firefox users will go down.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What is that relevant to? Genuinely curious.

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The comment I replied to was mentioning user-agent. User-agent is being deprecated (replaced by client hints) so changing the user agent will eventually stop working.

At the moment, the stats for browser usage rely on user agent as recorded by stats software used by various sites, so if you make Firefox pretend to be Chrome, you'll be contributing to the Firefox user percentage going down.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Right but why is that relevant? What good or bad does a number going down do? If Firefox wanted to keep track they could just count the number of downloads right?

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The issue is that sites will have even less reason to support Firefox if the number of people using Firefox goes down.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Ah OK that makes sense. Thank you.

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not always doable as they could be relying on non-standard features that are only in Chrome.

Not exactly the same thing, but my employer requires us to use Chrome for all internal stuff, as they're using Chrome Enterprise Premium as part of their endpoint security solution, and of of course that only works in Chrome.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It takes more than changing your user agent to msk which browser you use. It's trivial to know which browser you're really using if they really want.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure it's much easier to mask your browser than detect the correct browser. In the end you're just hitting a server for data, you fully control the call that is made.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

There are things you can't do with extensions alone, like change how certain JS and CSS internals work.