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The initiative is at more than 20% of the 1 million signatures necessary.

As of 4 pm CEST the numbers are:

| Country | Number of Signatures | Percentage of the theshold| |


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| | Austria | 4,187 | 31.26% | | Belgium | 7,116 | 48.06% | | Bulgaria | 2,764 | 23.06% | | Croatia | 2,527 | 29.87% | | Cyprus | 288 | 6.81% | | Czechia | 4,690 | 31.68% | | Denmark | 7,684 | 77.85% | | Estonia | 1,827 | 37.02% | | Finland | 10,266 | 104.01% | | France | 16,732 | 30.04% | | Germany | 45,688 | 67.51% | | Greece | 2,469 | 16.68% | | Hungary | 4,509 | 30.46% | | Ireland | 4,680 | 51.06% | | Italy | 7,949 | 14.84% | | Latvia | 1,569 | 27.82% | | Lithuania | 3,109 | 40.09% | | Luxembourg | 430 | 10.17% | | Malta | 279 | 6.6% | | Netherlands | 15,999 | 78.25% | | Poland | 20,517 | 55.97% | | Portugal | 5,019 | 33.9% | | Romania | 7,917 | 34.03% | | Slovakia | 2,773 | 28.1% | | Slovenia | 1,478 | 26.21% | | Spain | 16,261 | 39.09% | | Sweden | 13,698 | 92.52% | | Total | 212.425 | 21,24% |

To be successful the initiative needs to reach 1 million signatures and pass the threshold in at least seven countries.

https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home/allcountries

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[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

trying to push through a law that conforms to your moral view of the world is weird. It’s exactly the same mentality of people who want it to be the law that the ten commandments are in every classroom.

I'm sorry to tell you, but both sides of a given moral stance... are moral views. Someone's morals push them to dictate having the 10 Commandments in classrooms. My morals push me to oppose that happening. The law is going to enshrine a moral viewpoint no matter which way it goes.

All laws entail a moral viewpoint, either directly, or as a simple function of attempting to do what is "right": something as simple as defining the safe PPM of a chemical in drinking water is only done because we believe it is right/moral to provide clean drinking water (and also, immoral not to).

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Someone's morals push them to dictate having the 10 Commandments in classrooms. My morals push me to oppose that happening

It's not like we must choose between a law mandating everyone must do something or a law mandating its forbidden. There can also just be no law or some nuanced law. It's not black or white. Saying you're against a law requiring the 10 commandments being in all classrooms doesn't mean you support a law banning the 10 commandments from all classrooms.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 1 points 1 month ago

That's not what I said, I said it's still a moral stance to oppose having religious iconography in a public setting as a government mandate, which could be a ban of it, or simply not having a law that mandates it. The idea that a choice not to do anything is not also a moral stance, is mistaken.