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I use vmware and qemu

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[–] bruce965@lemmy.ml 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

None, I use Docker for Linux, and Proton (Heroic) for Windows.

But if I had to pick a virtual machine: libvirt with virt-manager as a frontend, which uses KVM for virtualization.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

From my other comment:

Then I created a Docker image with Linux, Gnome, and novnc so I can spin one up instantly with little resource overhead and control it from any web browser.

Maybe I should release my Dockerfile.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

i will be trying that one out for sure. this looks awesome for a headless desktop.

[–] bruce965@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I might actually be interested. It's like a lightweight alternative to Proxmox?

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sort of, Proxmox does use noVNC I think, but it's a lot of overhead. This is just a docker command. I've finally put a page up for it: https://nowsci.com/webbian/

[–] bruce965@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

I didn't understand that you ran it without hardware virtualization. This is really convenient, thanks a lot for making it!

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm just learning about Docker and Containerfiles, so I wouldn't be opposed to a real world example...

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago

Neat! Gonna look over that!

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But if I had to pick a virtual machine: libvirt with virt-manager as a frontend, which uses KVM for virtualization.

Its fair bcs vmware workstation does not support gpu passthrough libvirt with virt-manager is the only way

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 months ago

OpenShift Virtualization

[–] krash@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Correct me I'd I'm wrong, but with docker you're limited to the filesyatems and the image of the OS you're installing. If you need to experiment with the pre-OS boot events, can that even be accomplished with docker? E.g., trying out different GRUB settings, setting up LUKS with dropbear etc. I think those things require a VM.

[–] bruce965@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, you are correct. Docker shares the kernel with the host operating system, it doesn't use hardware virtualization. That's why it's so fast and simple, but it also means it's not a traditional VM and thus comes with some limitations.

[–] mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Can virt-manager boot windows boxes?

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 4 points 3 months ago

Absolutely, it's also made way easier with quickemu, allows you to spin up a properly configured Windows VM with pretty much no effort

[–] med@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, though there's some commandline shenanigans to get a tpm shim set up if you want it for windows 11

[–] mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago

I am planning for XP.