Work Reform

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A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.

Our Philosophies:

All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.

Our Goals

Higher wages for underpaid workers.
Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
Better and fewer working hours.
Stimulating a massive wave of worker organizing in the United States and beyond.
Organizing and supporting political causes and campaigns that put workers first.

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Californians will vote on a $18 minimum wage. Workers already want $25 and more (calmatters.org)

submitted 3 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/workreform@lemmy.world

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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 61 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Executive pay would be nice. Make it so the CEO gets paid a maximum of 20x the lowest paid worker. CEO pay goes up? So does company minimum wage. Make it account for stock grants too.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Does that apply to those situations where a CEO's salary is $1?

But theyre paid in stocks?

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 22 points 3 months ago

Make it 1/20th the CEO's total annual compensation package value

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Two ways I can think of to close that loophole: a) make tie the minimum wage to the executive's total compensation, so the workers either get the proportionate amount of stocks as the CEO or money of equivalent market value (also include expected performance bonus as part of that) and/or b) keep a basic minimum wage around as well, so that CEOs can't accept a pitifully low salary outright.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 months ago

Not CEO, but the highest paid position in the company.

Someone in power can easilly just give the CEO title to some dude and give himself the title of "Chief General Officer" or some bs like that

[–] Throw_away_migrator@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

My biggest fear with this proposal is that lower wage positions just get offloaded or somehow classified as "independent contractors" or consulting or some other bullshit. Or they create some shell company to all these positions. Or some other chicanery.

Don't get me wrong, I agree in principle. But God damn if actually enacting and enforcing wouldn't be some legal whack a mole with these slippery bastards

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While a nice idea, in reality you're dealing with sociopaths that will do anything to horde money. They would come up with work arounds in six months.

[–] Throw_away_migrator@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They would come up with work arounds in six months.

Six months. I give it 6 minutes. Tops

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Hell, I bet most of the Fortune 500 already has a contingency plan to work around that imposition if that sort of legislation is ever passed.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Stock grants are always quite vague in value - it'd be really hard to actually come up with a precise number for it... and in theory a bad actor (like Elon Musk) might be able to really fuck up that algorithm.