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[–] karpintero@lemmy.world 203 points 3 months ago (39 children)

That's refreshing to see in a world of ever increasing enshittification. Wish more companies move in this direction.

[–] FatTony@discuss.online 28 points 3 months ago (38 children)

Yeah, kinda makes you wonder as to why proton is adding A.I. features though.

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago (32 children)

I think it might be because AI (aka LLMs) is genuinely useful when used properly.

I use AI all the time to write emails. I give the LLM the email thread along with instructions like “I can’t make it Tuesday ask if they can do Wednesday at 2pm”

The AI will write out an email that’s polite and relevant in context. Totally worth it.

I think the problem is people/companies trying to shove LLMs where they don’t make sense.

[–] plasticcheese@lemmy.one 72 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I am not a fan of this. I see it all the time at work and it's very obvious when someone has chatGPT write an email for them (it's always such a sterile and yet overcomplicated writing style). If it's a direct email to me, I tend to feel insulted that they couldn't be bothered to write those 4 paragraphs themselves - it would have taken them 2 mins. There is a definite human disconnect going on in society at the moment, and its worrying.

[–] Carrick1973@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree. I actually think it's a net negative as well for friendships. As in the case of OP, I would rather get an original email from the sender saying they couldn't make it, so let's meet the next day, but instead I have to read thru several paragraphs of boilerplate and AI crap instead, which wastes my time, and I know the sender did it, so I'm mad at them for being impersonal. At some point, we're just going to have people's AI responding to each other without any person actually reading it.

We're only doing this because every company doesn't want to be left behind so they go all in. It feels like Ian Malcolm said it best in Jurassic Park

"Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should"

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In bureaucratic situations, you’re expected to have a bunch of polite boilerplate. Or at least that’s how my dad keeps telling me to write emails.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which it seems you're missing the point of.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's a purpose in showing that you put a little bit of thought into the email, not only for courtesy, but also because spending that attention can help you spot errors.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 3 months ago

Then why not just spend more time reading what I wrote out loud instead of spending that time solely on padding?

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I can understand that. I don’t actually use chatGPT to be fair. I use a locally run open source LLM. This all being said I do think it’s important to fine tune any LLM you use to match your writing style. Else you end up with chatGPT generic style writing.

I would argue that not fine tuning a LLM to match tone and style counts as either misuse or hobbyist use.

[–] yo_scottie_oh@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I use a locally run open source LLM.

How? GPT4All + Llama or something else? I just started dipping my toe in locally run open source LLM.

not fine tuning a LLM to match tone and style counts as either misuse or hobbyist use

You’ve hit the nail on the head with this one. I think the other commenters are right, that a lot of people will misuse the tool, but nonetheless it is an issue with the users, not the tool itself.

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

My main workstation runs Linux and I use Llama.cpp. I used it with mistral’s latest largest model but I have used others in the past.

I appreciate your thoughts here. Lemmy I think, in general, has an indistinguishing anti LLM bias.

[–] automator404@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Agreed. People are so bad at writing that they struggle to put a few sentences together for an email. Even their prompts lack clear instructions /message. It's astounding when you think about it for a minute.

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