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Climate expert says 2/3rds of humans are under an effective 'death sentence' (www.themirror.com)
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"What everyone is missing about climate change is that it's not about saving the planet or about science: it's about people. Earth will survive – it'll be different, but it will carry on. Humans are the ones at risk."

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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Earth will survive – it’ll be different, but it will carry on.

I hate how glib some people are handling an extinction of not only human life. Countless species, ecosystems and individual animals will die.

But yes, life will continue. You're technically correct. The best kind of correct. /s

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Another species will die" does not spur action quite like "you and everyone you love will die". To be entirely fair, this behaviour is not uniquely human. We aren't that special.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -2 points 2 months ago

I get the motivational part. It's just the "earth will move on, lol" part that's unnecessarily cruel and pisses me off.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think the fatalism comes from a place of helplessness. Who is going to survive? The rich. How does a normal person survive or help stave off the worst? They can't. They're busy trying to figure out rent and food for next week, while trying to ignore the chronic condition their healthcare system won't let them fix.

Now, if we all rise up and eat the rich, we might have something. Not sure how one inspires such a necessary movement these days. Especially planet-wide. Plus, it would likely lead to violence, which many are not a fan of, I'd prefer not, myself.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Now, if we all rise up and eat the rich, we might have something.

One of the challenges here is simply organizing such a moevement. The communication platforms needed for that simply will not allow users to plan a revolution.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago

Plus, it would likely lead to violence, which many are not a fan of, I'd prefer not, myself.

You're ignoring the inherent violence that's already prevalent in the current trajectory things are heading towards.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Technically seen, technically correct is the only kind of correct