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Author Joel Williamson shared Elvis kept a group of three 14-year-old girls with him on the tour who were up "for pillow fights, tickling, kissing and cuddling when he was 22.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ok... it was common for parents to allow catholic clergy to fuck their kids and when kid complained they did nothing. what is your point?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The distinction between past and present. And more abstractly, not confusing acknowledgement of past moral principles as agreement with them.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

saying it was common back then is tacitly approving of it IMHO

but people can make up their own minds.

note that many of these people who fucked jail bait are still alive and it is still happening in celebrating circles.

did not charlie cheen rape some kid? and there many stories all the disney jailbat being raped?

What excuse will society muster for this shit happening in 1990s?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

saying it was common back then is tacitly approving of it IMHO

That's the mindset I take issue with.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

where are you getting this information? how common was it?

who was fucking all this jailbait? just trash celebs? or everybody was bagging a 14 year old on the side?

who was supplying the jailbait? parents or they just acted on "their own"

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe if people weren't so afraid to acknowledge uncomfortable topics in history, you would know the answers to those questions already.

or everybody was bagging a 14 year old on the side?

It was closer to this.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was closer to this.

Well you don't learn this shit in history books but if it is true, then all these pedos need to go into a wood chipper.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They're mostly dead.

Here's my suggestion: stop with the moral outrage. The reason it's harmful is because of the potential for manipulation, not because such relationships are inherently harmful. The potential for abuse and manipulation is such that we've determined the risk is too high to accept as a society. That's a judgment call and a subtle determination, one which previous generations (pretty much all of human history) did not make.

Murder and assault are pretty much universally and instinctively viewed as wrong by all societies. Relationships between adults and teenagers has historically not been seen as such. That's a cultural phenomenon that's very recent. I think it's an advancement in society, like how we've decided misogyny and racism is wrong. But before you decide that literally everyone born before 1983 is Evil, maybe step back and consider history and culture a little.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But before you decide that literally everyone born before 1983 is Evil, maybe step back and consider history and culture a little.

That is the decision dawg... We will use the information but nobody has to accept these bags tbh

That's what's breaking cycle of abuse looks like.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

No it's not lol, it's just being toxic and hateful. Maybe it's less unhealthy, but it's still unhealthy.