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New report: Biomass CO2 emissions 4X higher than Coal | Just Have A Think (www.youtube.com)
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[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Actually that is capacity and not the electricity the actually produce. In 2021 Drax produced 4.2TWh of electricity. In 2021 Ratcliff produced 0.8TWh

So we are talking 5times more electricity from Drax. Hence 4x emissions is not as bad as it seems. I can not find 2023 numbers and I could imagine that they are even starker.

EDIT: Fix because I can not read properly apparently.

[–] solo@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

From the link you provided, it looks like in 2021 it was 4.2 not 7.5. Apart from that, this approach sounds too speculative to me, since the production comes from 2021 and the CO~2~ emissions quota from 2023. In the Drax chart it shows a decline in TWh produced from 2017 to 2021 (btw 2021 is also the year they retired coal). Still, assuming from this trend that their production few years latter continues to decline is something I would consider too risky to do.

  • 2017 -> 14.9
  • 2018 -> 11.7
  • 2019 -> 10.2
  • 2020 -> 7.5
  • 2021 -> 4.2

The Ratcliffe chart has so many fluctuations till 2021 that I couldn't dare guess what their 2023 production was.

  • 2017 -> 2.6
  • 2018 -> 3.2
  • 2019 -> 0.7
  • 2020 -> 0.1
  • 2021 -> 0.8

If I find the 2023 numbers, I'll add a comment or edit this one.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks. Fixed the original comment.