this post was submitted on 26 Aug 2024
36 points (68.0% liked)

Today I Learned

17785 readers
536 users here now

What did you learn today? Share it with us!

We learn something new every day. This is a community dedicated to informing each other and helping to spread knowledge.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules (interactive)


Rule 1- All posts must begin with TIL. Linking to a source of info is optional, but highly recommended as it helps to spark discussion.

** Posts must be about an actual fact that you have learned, but it doesn't matter if you learned it today. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.**



Rule 2- Your post subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

Your post subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.



Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.



Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That's it.



Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Posts and comments which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.



Rule 6- Regarding non-TIL posts.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-TIL posts using the [META] tag on your post title.



Rule 7- You can't harass or disturb other members.

If you vocally harass or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.

For further explanation, clarification and feedback about this rule, you may follow this link.



Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.



Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.



Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.

Unless included in our Whitelist for Bots, your bot will not be allowed to participate in this community. To have your bot whitelisted, please contact the moderators for a short review.



Partnered Communities

You can view our partnered communities list by following this link. To partner with our community and be included, you are free to message the moderators or comment on a pinned post.

Community Moderation

For inquiry on becoming a moderator of this community, you may comment on the pinned post of the time, or simply shoot a message to the current moderators.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

but generally placebos involve some deception where the person thinks they’re receiving real treatment.

That's literally what a placebo is...

Being aware that the placebo effect exists, and even being aware that someone is about to hand you something that may or may not be a placebo still doesn't effect the chances of a placebo effect.

Like....

Do you think when placebos are used in studies that the patients aren't aware that they may get an inactive treatment?

They literally have to sign contracts acknowledging that they're aware of that fact in every medicinal trial...

Why doors such blatantly wrong information keep getting upvoted on Lemmy?

This is far from the first time I've seen this happen.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

People know that they can get a placebo treatment, but they don't know if they actually got a placebo or the real treatment. They're also generally hoping both that they got the real treatment, and that the real treatment will make things better.

Maybe calling it deception isn't fully accurate, but the the point is that they're given something they hope is medicine, but in reality it's the placebo treatment.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think you misunderstood what you are replying to. Also you misunderstood the placebo effect (or maybe you think 50/50 placebo control group studies are the only application)