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[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (15 children)
[–] 30p87@feddit.org 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (14 children)

Well yeah. Imagine for a 250$ "Operating system" to take weeks until it performs the same as a FOSS OS.

Edit: 259€.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ok, this is the second time I've seen this $250 price. Where did you get that from?

Worst I'm seeing is ~$60 for a usb set up to install Pro along with the license, and you can easily get OEM Pro licenses for far far less.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Windows 11 Pro, doesn't matter if it's just the License or with USB, officially costs 259€. Which is ~289 USD.

https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/d/windows-11-pro/dg7gmgf0d8h4/000P

And even for the US, it's 200$.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/windows-11-pro/dg7gmgf0d8h4/000P

This is just the official price. Of course, you'll almost always get free Win 11 Home with new computers, or a Volume License for 10€ from ebay, or you just don't activate it. But the official price by M$ is 259€/200$. Which kinda means they think it is worth that much, and it would be justified to charge germans almost 300 USD for "an advertisement delivery platform strapped to a program loader".

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Fair enough. Just always seemed like a weird repeated sticking point.

For anyone looking to buy it cheaper, look for OEM key resellers. It's the discounted price for companies preinstalling Windows. You can only install it on one device though, instead of whatever "multiple install grace window" they allow normally.

For anyone wanting it for free, MASgrave utilizes some sort of loophole with an official licensing method meant for corporations to get Microsoft to grant you a valid official license key for free. Microsoft can't go back and somehow differentiate these keys from paid legit ones, so there's no risk. Just make sure you're getting MASgrave from their official source on github so there isn't any malware snuck in. It also has some functionality for Office licenses as well.


Also worth noting that with effort, you can excise the overwhelming majority of the anti-consumer bullshit from Windows. Not really accessible to the average joe though, real easy to break shit or not disable things properly so they get re-enabled through updates.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Normies hate grey market because it feels like they are stealing from the rich 🤡

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago

Normies don't know what an OS is. I'd say there is not a single person that would actually pay the official price - but it's nonetheless what M$ is asking for, implicating that's what they think their Trojan is worth.

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