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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Oh yeah those serfs giving up 6 months of labor for free to the manor Lord was completely different. Thank you hyper specific pedantry.

Yes, it's different. No, it's not different.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It's not pedantry, and I found the etymological origin interesting. Plus it was more accurate than your quick definition. While what you said was acceptable and adequate for your point, and you made a good point, what they said was interesting too and added to the conversation. I don't see why you had to be so hostile and negative towards them.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I find there too often aggressive pedantry over the term "slave", "indentured servant", "serf", and so on, that has exhausted me in those concepts. Especially since it's often used to either excuse mistreatment or compete for who had it worse when they are all often in reality completely similar experiences.

So yeah. I was a bit snappy. It is being pedantic though (which Lemmy/Reddit communities thrive on so yeah I don't know what I was expecting) especially when the original use of Robot as a modern term is literally for a passive human-esque slave force made by science.
But I agreee it does add to the conversation to include the original use.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get it. I also get annoyed by the weight those words get assigned. Same with ourselves words on television or, God forbid, "nigger".... I'm probably sounding like a racist right now to soemone, just for that word.but it shouldn't be like that. They're just words.

I am not raised in that culture of "fear for words" and I cannot understand it,but I have learned to stay far away from it,because the people who do have an opinion on those words are very loud and very clear.

I have also learned that words do not mean the same to different people. Even words without that "weight". For instance a mental image of an "island". I think of a tropic island with a single palm tree. You might think of a rocky island. Someone else might think of Shetland. It depends a lot on you context, for instance if you grew up watching The Loveboat or Game Of Thrones.Or maybe you actually grew up on an island. That doesn't just happen for "island", but pretty much every word. Fortunately we have a very extensive common context in which we can find common ground to communicate meaning.

You can also see this in language. For instance how people speak regional dialects or how the Eskimo languages have so many words for snow or how calligraphy has influenced Japanese writing or Silbo Gomero

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks and I'm sorry I snapped.
Yeah language is confusing and uses itself as only a tool to convey some thought that only the speaker can truly know the intent of but yet we all can share.

Meanwhile I just realized I was being silly with words in another thread were I only used words ending in -ing to prove its all nonsensical, so your providing extra context does nothing to detract.

Again, sorry.

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