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Some of the LinkedIn Responses are direct and on-point, and also hilariously/depressingly based depending on how you look at it:

EDIT: In hindsight, I think I should've looked into posting this in a different community.. It's closer to a silly "innovation".. soo.. is this considered FUD? I also don't support smoking or vaping, especially among kids. Original title had "privacy-violating" before the "solution".

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[–] ghurab@lemmy.world 70 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The dildo of an unintended consequences is approaching.

Bullies will start blowing vape smoke on other kid's desks to get them in trouble. And someone will eventual create a smoke-box class room to get the screen to light up with alerts.

Then what? You need to cross reference the alerts with a video feed or snapshots.

Then some genius will figure that using AI to analyze all of the data is easier than manually doing so.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The device still needs a human to investigate. Also it can't narrow it down to specific students. All it can say is that there was vaping related chemicals detected in the bathroom.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All it can say is that there was vaping related chemicals detected in the bathroom.

Bring in a fog machine (mostly same ingredients) and see if machines can have aneurisms.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A fog machine doesn't have any of the same metals or nicotine.

Also why would it be ok for a student to bring in a fog machine. That also seems kinda problematic

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

You don't vape metals unless you're running it unreasonably long and hot without juice. The studies that showed metals shedding from coils basically engineered it through nonrealistic methods that would never be repeated in the wild, you'd notice the worst taste you've ever had as the cotton singes long before the coil sheds any material. That said, vape juice is VG, PG, Flavors, and Nic; fog machine juice is VG, PG, distilled water, and essential oils if you want some smells. The bulk of both fluids is literally the exact same with the exception that vapes require USP food grade VG/PG where nobody cares with fog machines.

As to your second question: Because it's funny. Of course they'd be mad about it, that's part of why it's funny. Not a class clown, were you?

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Any good school should have a fog machine of its own IMO.

[–] Cattypat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago

the sensors aren't placed on desks, you can see that the displays are placed outside of bathrooms because that's where kids generally vape. my high school has sensors inside the bathrooms on the ceiling and they don't work. you're thinking of a scenario that's incredibly difficult and costly to implement, I assure you no district would be willing to hook this bullshit up to EVERY DESK. the term "Simon's desk" here is likely just a name for one of the sensors they used to test this concept, with the sensor being located at the desk of a developer named simon