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In your opinion how do countries get rid of "terrorists" either within our outside? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 months ago by Don_Dickle@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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[–] nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

ISIS aren't fascist, they don't have a desire to rule, they just want to fight and kill. They're wardogs

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I consider all ambitions to form an ethnostate a flavor of Fascism

Since at latest 2004, a significant goal of the group has been the foundation of a Sunni Islamic state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State

[–] nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz 0 points 2 months ago

That is their stated goal, but their actions show otherwise.

They mostly fight other Sunni Muslim organizations like Taliban, Hamas, Al Qaeda, which does not help in their stated goal.

They claim to follow the teachings of an author called Sayed Qutb, who is a really big figure in the Muslim brotherhood (which Hamas comes from) yet they attack Hamas.

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IS ideologues rarely uphold adherence to Islamic scholarship and law manuals for reference, mostly preferring to derive rulings based on self-interpretation of the Qur'an and Muslim traditions

Compare ISIS with the Taliban, an actual fascist organization which wants to rule in such a manner. Taliban mainly operated in Afghanistan, against invaders be they Russians, NATO, whatever. They did not operate in foreign countries like ISIS does. ISIS openly admits that it wants to destabilize other countries and radicalize Muslims living abroad to convince them to commit acts of terror

ISIS wants to stir religious hatred in Europe and the United States – so that Muslims no longer feel they belong in the West, and either carry out attacks in their homelands or leave to join the caliphate.

If they genuinely wanted to establish a caliphate they would first focus on gaining regional dominance, then either freeing Al quds, and occupying mecca.

Instead they fight Hamas, and try to get Muslims to commit acts of terror abroad

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 2 months ago

They’re effectively wardogs but their desire is to establish a large and radically Islamic empire