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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I made this decision a couple years ago. Gave up milk (switched to oat milk), but I still eat cheese and yogurt. I eat probably 20% of the red meat per year that I used to.

You don’t have to be a rabid vegan to make an impact.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

But its much easier to hate vegans and pretend theyre the problem

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Vegans are the problem? What problem? Causing climate change, or eating too much red meat? Your comment makes no sense.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doesnt matter. Vegan hate does not follow logic. They brainwash our kids, they poison our wells, theyre not real men, anything goes.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago

Uhh…. right. You might want to check your carbon monoxide detectors.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

That would depend on the vegan.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They aren't the problem, but a good 10% of them are loud and annoying as hell, with no one wanting to hear them. They're Karen's.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

More like 1% but yes, unsurprisingly there are annoying people in the vegan community like in any other community in existence.

[–] houseofleft@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is such a good attitude! I cut all meat out of my diet a long time ago, and when I mention it, people often say something like "I'd love to but I couldn't commit to never having meat again".

You don't have to! It's amazing if you do, but you're still gonna make a sizable impact on the cause you care about if you reduce your intake.

It's odd that people don't have this with other issues, the idea of "reducing purchases of disposable plastic" or "buying fairtrade more" make total sense to people, but food is still often cashed out in these "all or nothing" terms.

[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

100% spot on. I'm so tired of everything needing to be 100% or 0%. a 80% cut has an impact! so does 50%. we all need to do what we can, and not taking an extreme position doesn't make someone a sellout or faker or whatever. every little bit helps

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

a 80% cut has an impact! so does 50%.

i don't think so. i don't think it matters what you do in the grocery store or in a restaurant.

I think a lot of people have a problem admitting that the consumption of certain things causes harm, which is why they turn it into an all or nothing decision. But I believe in the principle of harm reduction, and not letting perfect be the enemy of ‘better’. Or put in a more positive light, ‘every little bit helps’.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You don’t have to be a rabid vegan to make an impact.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/meat-production-tonnes?tab=chart&country=~OWID_WRL

the fact is that the industry continues to grow.

I can only control my own choices. But that fact is one of the main reasons I made that choice. It’s not sustainable.