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What alternative ways can you think of to handle making legislation and passing laws that would negate the increasingly polarized political climate that is happening in more and more countries?

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[–] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Randomly drawing citizen. Sure politics require some training, but it can be done on the job

Also, countries with proportional votes tend to force politicians to talk with each other more than countries with single representative per district.

Limiting elected official mandates to one or two. If you couldn't do something in 10 years no reason to think you'll do it latter

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you worked with people recently? A decent amount can’t learn anything and don’t take personal accountability. I guess that does sound like Congress.

[–] Joshi@aussie.zone 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

No. This sort of arrogant rubbish needs to be shut down.

In my job - a doctor - I routinely discuss difficult and complex topics with people of all backgrounds and education levels. With very few exceptions people are able to understand difficult topics.

It is my experience that the most difficult people to work with are not ordinary people but those who hold the opinion that everyone else is stupid.

With very few exceptions sortition and participatory democracy have worked well whenever they've been tried.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

I disagree about sortition, but I appreciate pushing back on elitist, misanthropic bullshit like you did. I think elections with a strong ability to quickly recall faithless representatives is a much better solution because it involves the decision-making of the whole community, rather than a community member chosen at random.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m a branch manager in the trades and I see this daily. We’ve had to let go plenty because they wouldn’t take personal accountability for their actions and instead it was always someone else’s/thing’s fault. Maybe it’s just the current field I’m in. Who knows.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe tech school should require electives like philosophy, logic, ethics, sociology and psychology classes? This used to be required here, but isn't, anymore.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

In their own words they are working a blue collar job because they learn by doing. It would also help if the common trade tech schools weren’t crap at teaching (at least where I am). Most learn more as an apprentice in 1 month than they did in school and they’re getting paid for it instead.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I've toyed with the idea of staffing the House by sortition. Maybe not entirely random, pooling from State and local offices might be more practical, political efficacy is a skill and a little experience is valuable.