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[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Any links to Stein saying she supports Russian terrorism? I'm not voting for her, but I've never heard her say this.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's in the spoiler I already posted.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

She never said she supported Putin.

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[–] pooperNickel@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Well if she didn't admit to being a foreign asset, we know for sure she cannot possibly be! /s

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

None of that says she "supports Putin" though.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You have a history you seem proud of where you are unwilling to comprehend consequences. When 2 people are fighting each other and you step up and hold their arms behind them so the other can take free wacks, who do you support?

BuT yOu DiDn'T SAY yOu SuPpOrT tHe OtHeR gUy... in what world does that matter?

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You have a history you seem proud of where you are unwilling to comprehend consequences.

Thanks for being interested enough in me to worry about my "history." I don't have to prove anything to you. I disagree with you. You disagree with me. And that's ok.

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[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

'Interested' is not the word I would use. We've had a couple conversations (I'm not fooled by the name change) where you systematically refuse to integrate information that contradicts your world view and follow up with nonsense copypasta as if that somehow absolves you of any obligation to improve.

The issue isn't the news organization. It's you refusing to concede she parrots Russian rhetoric and takes their side with the Ukraine conflict despite conceding it is an illegal war. Her tap dancing around it to not openly admit she is Putin's plant is your ONLY response. You do not provide any rebuttal other than "I am not convinced". "Reach out to the news organization"? Are they going to find where you live, bury you in a pile of Stein quotes of her spouting russian talking points while playing a video of RT broadcasting the same thing until you finally admit "OMG EVIDENCE MATTERS"? No? Then why bother?

So spare me your BS copypasta deflecting any responsibility and actually contribute something of value to the conversation. Can you find a contradictory quote from Stein where she declares the 'peace plan' she intends for Ukraine listed in her platform commits to pre-2014 Ukraine borders? If you can't, then admit she is anti-Ukraine/pro-Russian and stop defending her with vapour.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

(I’m not fooled by the name change)

What do you mean? The name change isn't for "fooling" anyone. When I update my "display name" the names get updated to all my past posts. So there is not "fooling" anyone.

And I have the same username, I haven't changed my username, so not sure what you mean by not being fooled by a name change. My entire post and comment history is public.

you systematically refuse to integrate information that contradicts your world view

OR maybe I just haven't changed my mind or my opinion.

You haven't changed your opinion about voting for harris. Does that mean you "you systematically refuse to integrate information that contradicts your world view"?

Her tap dancing around it to not openly admit she is Putin’s plant

Exactly. She's never said it. I don't belive she is. Let it go. You have your opinion, I have mine. I respect your opinion. Respect mine.

You do not provide any rebuttal other than “I am not convinced”.

I am under no obligation to provide any rebuttal or prove anything to you. I gave you my opinion. Accept it or not. Not my problem.

Also, I'm not even voting for Jill Stein, so calm down.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It does not matter who you claim you are or are not voting for. You defend her. With nothing but blind stubbornness. Still haven't rebutted the fact she has pro-Russian stances. Just more head in the sand.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't have to prove anything to you. I told you my opinion. You can accept or not. I don't care.

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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She won't say the words "I support Putin's positions". She will just SUPPORT those positions.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If she's never said it, then I don't believe it. Sorry, friend.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You don't believe she supports Putin's positions even when she says she supports those positions herself? Mkay

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Has she said it? What Putin positions does she support?

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When asked if she felt it was wrong, she said, “Absolutely, yes. It was wrong, it was a criminal act, it’s a violation of international law.”

From your link.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That has nothing to do with her supporting his positions and blaming the U.S.... which she does.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That has nothing to do with her supporting his positions

When asked if she felt it was wrong, she said, “Absolutely, yes. It was wrong, it was a criminal act, it’s a violation of international law.” From your video link.

Doesn't sound like she is supporting his decision. Especially since she literally said she thinks it's wrong.

The russianphobia in this place is blinding.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say she supports his decision, I said she supports his positions. I think you are purposely trying to avoid that. She blames the U.S. for the invasion and agrees with Putin on how dangerous NATO "expansion" is. The last countries near Russia that joined NATO were in 2004. Russira is committing a genocide and invaded for no reason. Russia phobia is completely understandable.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

I said she supports his positions. I think you are purposely trying to avoid that.

And I think you are purposely exaggerating about her positions because you think she is taking votes away from Harris.

Where has she said "I support Putin"?