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[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 14 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

This is an insane take. “While I appreciate amateur astronomy” - my dude, it’s not amateurs being affected here. You want to let a small number of tools become the only way humanity has to make these kinds of observations? You think the tools up there can somehow be made to equal the capacity and accommodate the man hours required to do the science we do?

You’re out of your mind.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The tools “up there” could be made to rival the capacity and accommodate the man hours required to more science than we do now. The problem is it’s hard and expensive and nobody wants to try because of that fact. It’s becoming easier with cheaper launch vehicles and better communications infrastructure. Now we need folks to start identifying the best locations to send new observation satellites and then start building and launching them.

Your take is very conservative and counter to technological progress and I don’t appreciate the personal attack. We can have a meaningful conversation without that crap.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 11 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Don't forget important discoveries are also made by or with the help of amateurs, who permanently observe the night sky and measure the coordinates, i.e. the relative positions, of luminating objects. This allows others, mostly professionals, to calculate their motions and obtain information about the (hidden) masses, i.e. luminating and non luminating objects, inducing and influencing them. By this means, black holes, 'dark' masses, or asteroids, 'fast' moving illuminated objects, have been and are beeing discovered.

[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Discoveries about and observations of comets, supernovae, even exoplanet transits are regularly being enriched or even driven in some cases by “amateur” astronomers.

This guy’s legit out of his mind or he’s been huffing Elon’s musk.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Suggesting that we move towards space-based astronomy doesn't mean he's out of his mind. He might not be a professional astronomer or astrophysicist, but that hardly indicates insanity.

They had an opinion and expressed it. You can then reply and explain why you disagree. No need to call them insane for expressing their thoughts.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Considering their instance, I'd assume they're more out of their mind than huffing Elmo.

Another important part in this argumentation is that each type of telescope has its use case:
Extraterrestrial telescopes, as they are not objected by atmospheric blur can obtain much better 'images' from the cosmos even of weak, low brightness signals, which makes them best for observing the 'far' cosmos until the boundaries of recognition.
Yet, they are and always will be much more expensive and more difficult to maintain than terrestrial telescopes. Thus, using them for observing our cosmic front yard, the milky way, is like shooting with canons at sparrows.
Due to their cost, extraterrestrial telescopes also will always be 'few', too few to effectively keep track of the objects around us. Thus, 'cheap' terrestrial telescopes, large professional ones and small ones run by amateurs, will always be needed to observe the objects 'closely' around us, i.e. in our galaxis.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

Yes, extraterrestrial telescopes are hard. And, we need more of them. And we need to give access to amateurs.