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[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This particular poster seems to think I didn't read the article, and if I had, I couldn't possibly disagree with it.

My takeaways and disagreements:

  • They say RFK Jr. wanted to ignite discussions on the political duopoly. (Then why did RFK Jr. withdraw and endorse Trump?)
  • They claim to speak for independent Coloradans. (I am registered as an independent in Colorado. Who are they to speak for me?)
  • They think Third Parties are the solution to our problems. (I do agree here and will be voting for Colorado's RCV option this November, and will vote for third party candidates for city, county, state, and federal offices, with Dems ranked appropriately, if that passes. POTUS, however, is still ratfucked by the Founders and their EC, so I'll be voting Lesser Evil there)
  • This is despite wide variations in what they believe in. (Third parties don't agree on much!)
  • Some of them endorsed Trump

“If you really understand Bobby (Kennedy Jr.) and what’s going on, you have to suck it up,” Maxsenti said. “Vote for Trump and hope and pray, as we do, that Trump is truly a changed individual — and, now, that he’s learned his lessons from his first opportunity.” (You really don't think this is enough all on its own to earn a downvote on the article?)

This poster throws big words, likely without understanding them, and definitely incorrectly. The article was all over the place, but mostly confirmed what I already believed. There is a huge faction in the Third Party movement who wants Trump elected. Third party views are mostly single-issue magical thinking type views, unaware of how elections actually work in the US. They agree on very little with each other, let alone with the Major Parties, and they expect us to trust us with the decision making. And entertaining them, right now, will result in greater harm than listening to Andrew Yang who capped the whole thing off with "we're with Harris".

There isn't cognitive dissonance here when I interact with these posters, dear reader. There is a desire to point out that they are wrong, that their choices are dangerous, that you shouldn't listen to them, and that you should cast your vote for Kamala Harris, no matter where you are, how red or blue your district is, how much you disagree with Biden's decisions over the past four years, or even if you think there's a genocide being enacted in Israel, because frankly, either she or Trump wins, and everything you might accuse the Biden/Harris Admin of doing will be done in spades by a future Trump admin, not just to Palestinians, but to Ukrainians, Taiwanese, Muslims, Mexicans, and a whole host of American groups such as LGBTQ+, minorities, non-Christians of all sects, and women. Maybe go read a primer of Project 2025 (I won't subject you to the whole almost thousand-page document) and give some serious thoughts as to why these people are trying to get you to throw your vote away on a Third Party Candidate with Trump on the election?