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I tried to selfhost Nextcloud at work (feddit.it)
submitted 1 month ago by Moonrise2473@feddit.it to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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And it failed spectacularly.

We only needed a simple form, but we wanted to be fancy, so we used "nextcloud forms".

The docker image automatically updated the install to nextcloud 30, but the forms app requires nextcloud 29 or lower. No warning whatsoever. It's an official app, couldn't they wait that it was ready for NC 30 before launching it? The newsletter boasts "NC hub 9 is the best thing after sliced bread" yet i don't see any difference both in visual or performance compared to NC hub 2

Conclusion: we made our business to rely on nextcloud forms as a signup form, but the only reason we were using it was disabled who knows how many weeks ago.

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[–] JASN_DE@lemmy.world 86 points 1 month ago (26 children)

Wait, you update productions systems without running a staging environment? Or even checking the update notes and your installed apps? Also no backups? What kind of business are you running over there?

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes no staging because it's something used at most by 2 concurrent users, we were ok with 95% reliability (we discovered it was disabled after at least two weeks lol)

Otherwise we would just have signed up to one of the many cloud forms sites at $100/year

Backups daily but it's unthinkable to revert something like nextcloud to a months old one

Subscribed to both newsletter and RSS feed to know about issues (the command to update the docker images isn't automated but manually issued). The maintainer of the forms app is nextcloud itself so any incompatibility should have been written in red bold characters in the blog posts and newsletter.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why are your backups so out of date? Just setup daily snapshots and call it a day if it isn't critical. You never want to update major versions first thing. Wait 3 months and then update.

This smells like shadow IT

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it -1 points 1 month ago

I have daily backups and hourly zfs snapshot. The problem is that, because nobody used the useless survey plugin, I have no idea when it broke. It could have been yesterday or it could have been 4 months ago

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