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Thinking the 'unthinkable': NATO wants Canada and allies to gear up for a conventional war (www.cbc.ca)
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NATO says it wants its members to develop national plans to bolster the capacity of their individual defence industry sectors, a concept Canada has struggled with β€” or avoided outright β€” for decades.

At the NATO leaders summit in Washington in July, alliance members agreed to come up with strategies to boost their domestic defence materiel sectors, and to share those strategies with each other. Almost entirely overshadowed at the time by debates about members' defence spending and support for Ukraine, the new policy got little attention.

Federal officials are just beginning to wrap their heads around the ramifications of the new policy, and the burden it could place on the government and Canada's defence sector.

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's important to remember that while this is escalation it isn't necessarily the prelude to a war - mobilization is often used to avert combat and entice parties back to the negotiating table.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because the next war will likely be WW3.

But I'm not confident this is just to avert something larger, as it would seem we passed that point a while back.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not certain, since war is never a logical escalation it's hard to predict when it will happen.

Putin may drag his countrymen into a war simply out of political self preservation but Russia cannot win against Nato. Russia can bomb the shit out of western countries and launch nukes but in a purely math sense it's like Germany in WW2 it would be doomed to failure.

I hope we don't get WW3 anytime soon and cooler heads prevail - I hope Putin is just bluffing and remains sane... but we'll see.

China absolutely has far too much to lose, I think war with China (even with Xi being a fucking hot head) is highly unlikely.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yup. China might go for Taiwan if they're sure they can get away with it, but that's all. I don't really expect them to dick around with MAD; they're rational actors, at least at this point in history. Russia's goose is already cooked, and I doubt an order to attack NATO out of the blue would even be obeyed.

Edit: The article talks about a cluster of unspecified regional wars, which seems much more likely, though.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I honestly never thought of Xi as a hothead. This could be my bias or lack of awareness. I'd say he has a fragile ego, sure. Do you have any examples to show why you believe that?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago

I mean, if escalation goes all the way there's not much use to a conventional army anymore.