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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 33 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Didn’t people’s lackluster interest in the first one and the pitiful sales numbers convey that we don’t really give a shit?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It wasn't lack of interest it was a lack of money. It was an interesting product that I would have probably bought but was ludicrously expensive. I can practically pay off my mortgage for the amount they wanted

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It’s $3,500. That’s the price of a specced up MacBook Pro. That’s almost half the price of the Pro Display XDR. I mean I didn’t buy one because it is pretty expensive, plus I barely use my Index, but it’s definitely not “pay of your mortgage” level of expensive.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Hyperbole is a thing.

In other the news it's still too expensive for basically anyone to buy which was my fundamental point which I feel like you're ignoring

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

I really don’t think they intended for everyone to buy it. I think they wanted to get it out into devs and enthusiasts hands, and let people who are interested but not!willing to spend that much money demo it in an Apple Store. They gives time for apps to get tested, independent devs time to port their apps over and iron out any bugs, etc.

I feel like the fact that the first one didn’t move even 100k units but they’re still working on a second generation one that will cost less proves that. That’s kind of what everyone’s being saying about this ever since the price was first announced.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

$3,500 on a toy is not "pretty expensive", it's 3 months salary at minimum wage. It's 7 times as expensive as the Quest 3, which actually has a user base, and 11 times as expensive as the upcoming Quest 3S.

It certainly pays a couple of mortgage payments.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Bruh. Obviously. The person said pay off their mortgage, which is distinctly different from making a mortgage payment. Jfc.

Also, the Vision Pro isn’t outrageously expensive, it’s just expensive. It’s not even just Apple. MSI, Asus, Lenovo, Dell, and Acer all have laptops in the $3,000+ range. I don’t really understand what your point is really, there’s tons of shit that I couldn’t afford for the decade I made minimum wage, but that I can afford now that I make much more. I wasn’t mad those things existed when I couldn’t afford them, and I definitely didn’t think they shouldn’t exist just because they were out of my budget.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

The price was definitely a primary factor, but it wasn't the only one. The Vision Pro is a bulky thing with a dingleberry on a string and many reviewers noted the uncomfortable headband situation. It, like may headsets, is also a royal pain in the ass to deal with if you wear glasses and/or need really specialized lenses.

But a really big factor was that it's an Apple product. Word travelled fast about how limited the software is and how you can't really do much with it. Apple is going to have a hard time selling these things until they crawl out of their own ass and actually let people use their products how they wish to. One of the biggest appeals of AR computing is how it bridges together computing with your imagination, and that doesn't really work when Apple says "no, you can't do that because it doesn't match our company vision"

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fix the Mac mirroring mode to allow floating windows/multiple displays, and make a cost reduced version that still has good resolution and is around the same price as two high-end monitors.

You could improve your desktop setup, and take your monitors with you on the go. I think there's a good usecase there. They just have to figure it out.

Personally I'm more interested to see what happens with Valve Deckard.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

I maintain that VR died when Facebook bought Oculus.

[–] Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You must not be a Harvard MBA in charge of Apple Marketing.