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[–] debil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Maybe we don't, but she's got a huge fanbase and they probably do.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd rather they not vote at all if they're just basing their choice on what some billionaire entertainer says.

[–] I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's about sending a message, setting a signal. People should think for themselves, I agree, but come on. Do you ignore all other forms of influence people experience or what weird world do you live in?

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

what weird world do you live in?

The one where shitloads of people let celebrities influence how they think.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I hate to break it to you, but Trump himself was a celebrity turned president. So we've no choice but to live in a world where celebrity seems to be important as some kind of qualification. His other qualification was "businessman" aka used-car-salesman.

[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why do they assign weight to her perspective?

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is it wise that they assign her perspective value because they admire her ability to sing and dance?

[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This story has nearly 600 upvotes, so far. Does that imply that we care about winning more than we care about the the wisdom and agency of others?

[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Is that moral and ethical?

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They admire more than that. But, like, there’s an implication in the fact that you are posting on Lemmy that you believe people should assign a nonzero value to your perspective; why is that? I would assume that you make your arguments and believe they have value based on their own merit, regardless of the fact we have no idea who you are. Well, Taylor Swift made a post where she stated her position and gave arguments too. Is there any reason her perspective should not have any value but yours and mine should?

Furthermore, if someone does know who she is and wants to also take into account that they admire her music and songwriting, her personality, her perspective, and/or her various life accomplishments, why shouldn’t they? We’re talking about politics here, where everyone is making it up as they go along. She’s not trying to use her celebrity status to get a paper published in a physics journal or something.

[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

I've done little more than ask questions about why someone should respect her political perspective because she's rich singer and dancer.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She's at least as qualified as one of the candidates to have a perspective, and has an edge because she hasn't bankrupted any casinos, sabotaged a nation's pandemic response, or raped any kids that I know about. Not that qualification is necessary to have or state a perspective.

I strongly question the judgement of anyone who questions the judgement of someone advising voting against Trump.

[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She's at least as qualified as one of the candidates to have a perspective

Your measure of merit is "relative to shit".

I strongly question the judgement of anyone who questions the judgement of someone advising voting against Trump.

You don't care for facts and reason, only agreement.

That's not a perspective that deserves respect.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You have yet to demonstrate any facts or reason.

"Don't vote for the shit candidate" otoh is reasonable.

[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

"Don't vote for the shit candidate" otoh is reasonable

I agree. That's why I won't vote for Trump, Harris, or anyone else that funds their campaigns with corporate money.